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    1. Chaos‏ @chaosprime May 21
      Replying to @ColumPaget

      Chaos Retweeted Chaos

      this is the correct wayhttps://twitter.com/chaosprime/status/997964886536749057 …

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      Chaos @chaosprime
      in order to achieve the sex redistribution results desired by movement incels and trads and, increasingly, plain old conservatives, it isn't that "partners > 1" needs to be prohibited, it's that "partners = 1" needs to be mandated. mono- means "one", not "one or zero"
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    2. ColumPaget‏ @ColumPaget May 21
      Replying to @chaosprime

      ah, this is the government-mandated-gf thing? I'd be surprised if he actually supports that, but we shall see as I get into this more.

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    3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime May 21
      Replying to @ColumPaget

      that's a construction of it, but i don't imagine for a moment that that's what JBP wants. he's said what he wants: "social convention favoring stable pair bonding". y'know, nice wholesome stuff like families sternly but lovingly teaching their scions to stay married

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    4. Chaos‏ @chaosprime May 21
      Replying to @chaosprime @ColumPaget

      because trads like to make it sound like you're getting something good, like support, and just ignore the fact that the reason that support is important that without it, if you're considered beyond the pale, you starve to death on the street

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    5. Chaos‏ @chaosprime May 21
      Replying to @chaosprime @ColumPaget

      the government enforcing monogamy would be bad because the government could be taken over and the enforcement could be changed. what's desired is grassroots enforcement, treatment of those who don't behave properly as scum

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    6. ColumPaget‏ @ColumPaget May 21
      Replying to @chaosprime

      well, historically the government has enforced monogamy, and don't tell me that monogamy means government mandated gf, because we both know that's not what it's meant historically. That's just a twitter meme.

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    7. Chaos‏ @chaosprime May 21
      Replying to @ColumPaget

      i've said what it means like six times now it means that the social conditions mean heterosexually pairbond or die

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    8. ColumPaget‏ @ColumPaget May 21
      Replying to @chaosprime

      you've repeated posted an equation that appeared to suggest that monogamy meant everyone had to have one partner. and I'm not pairbonded, but I'm not dead yet. I will be eventually, but so will married couples.

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    9. Chaos‏ @chaosprime May 21
      Replying to @ColumPaget

      right, because we don't live in an enforced monogamy society (though it'll only be women that are forced to have partners of course)

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    10. ColumPaget‏ @ColumPaget May 21
      Replying to @chaosprime

      nonsense. We do live in an enforced monogamy society, you can only marry one person by law. That's what it means, and word games from either you or Mr Peterson won't change that.

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      Chaos‏ @chaosprime May 21
      Replying to @ColumPaget

      if we lived in an enforced monogamy society in the way Peterson wants, it would be nonsensical for Peterson to suggest we could change to an enforced monogamy society to solve our problems

      6:13 PM - 21 May 2018
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        2. ColumPaget‏ @ColumPaget May 21
          Replying to @chaosprime

          I agree, it would! That's why I think he must be suggesting government-mandated-gf if he's suggesting anything. This raises another issue, which is the number of people following alternative lifestyles in this regard is still very few, so they can't be the cause of troubles.

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        3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime May 21
          Replying to @ColumPaget

          okay, come to it in your own time if you ain't gonna listen i guess you will find that statistically insignificant causes are blamed all out of proportion to their effects when they make people resentful of the power they feel they're supposed to have and don't

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        4. ColumPaget‏ @ColumPaget May 21
          Replying to @chaosprime

          hmm, I think we're slipping off point here. My point is that what Peterson has *said* is uncontraversial. What he *means* is something I've not yet concluded, I'm still gathering evidence. Now, you clearly feel you know what he means. You may be right...

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        2. ColumPaget‏ @ColumPaget May 21
          Replying to @chaosprime

          our society is effectively an enforced monogamy society, and it couldn't get much more so, so it will be interesting to see what Peterson is getting at when he brings this up. I don't see polyamory as having a significant impact on our society.

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        3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime May 21
          Replying to @ColumPaget

          it doesn't, the impact that is interpreted by incels as relevant to their problems is the practical capacity of women to choose to go unpartnered

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