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    1. Chaos‏ @chaosprime May 21
      Replying to @ColumPaget

      on the one hand, he has basic theory of mind about his political opponents and advocates good practices like "first put your house in order" on the other hand, "enforce monogamy", "gee does casual sex necessitate government tyranny" stating these calmly doesn't make them "mild"

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    2. ColumPaget‏ @ColumPaget May 21
      Replying to @chaosprime

      He didn't really say 'enforce monogamy' though, from what I recall, he said the reason why societies often do that is to prevent a few males monopolizing all the females. I don't think that's a contraversial statement.

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    3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime May 21
      Replying to @ColumPaget

      Chaos Retweeted Jordan B Peterson

      https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/998088964719464449 …

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      Jordan B PetersonVerified account @jordanbpeterson
      Furthermore, anyone motivated by the NY Times to assume that what I meant by "enforced monogamy" was anything other than social convention favoring stable pair bonding can think whatever they want, as they no doubt will anyway... https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/998087424814256128 …
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    4. Chaos‏ @chaosprime May 21
      Replying to @chaosprime @ColumPaget

      Chaos Retweeted Chaos

      https://twitter.com/chaosprime/status/998262649006804992 …

      Chaos added,

      Chaos @chaosprime
      also "social convention favoring stable pair bonding" means that society exerts itself moderately to vigorously to make sure that if you aren't in a stable pair bond you die in a gutter, hope this helps
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    5. ColumPaget‏ @ColumPaget May 21
      Replying to @chaosprime

      though I haven't actually seen it, but I understand he went on to say, or imply, that males who fail to get a partner turn homicidal (hence the 'incel' shooter). That's the bit I think is crazy myself. We've had as many ppl turn shooter 'cos their youtube chan got demonitized.

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    6. Chaos‏ @chaosprime May 21
      Replying to @ColumPaget

      yeah poke around his twitter feed a bit, he argues for enforced monogamy from the idea that ~failed males~ get violent

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    7. ColumPaget‏ @ColumPaget May 21
      Replying to @chaosprime

      but there's a lot of ways to interpret 'enforced monogamy'. That's why I'd rather see a video where he goes into things in some depth.

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    8. Chaos‏ @chaosprime May 21
      Replying to @ColumPaget

      Chaos Retweeted Chaos

      this is the correct wayhttps://twitter.com/chaosprime/status/997964886536749057 …

      Chaos added,

      Chaos @chaosprime
      in order to achieve the sex redistribution results desired by movement incels and trads and, increasingly, plain old conservatives, it isn't that "partners > 1" needs to be prohibited, it's that "partners = 1" needs to be mandated. mono- means "one", not "one or zero"
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    9. ColumPaget‏ @ColumPaget May 21
      Replying to @chaosprime

      ah, this is the government-mandated-gf thing? I'd be surprised if he actually supports that, but we shall see as I get into this more.

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    10. Chaos‏ @chaosprime May 21
      Replying to @ColumPaget

      that's a construction of it, but i don't imagine for a moment that that's what JBP wants. he's said what he wants: "social convention favoring stable pair bonding". y'know, nice wholesome stuff like families sternly but lovingly teaching their scions to stay married

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      Chaos‏ @chaosprime May 21
      Replying to @chaosprime @ColumPaget

      because trads like to make it sound like you're getting something good, like support, and just ignore the fact that the reason that support is important that without it, if you're considered beyond the pale, you starve to death on the street

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        1. ColumPaget‏ @ColumPaget May 21
          Replying to @chaosprime

          well, I've not heard his economic viewpoints yet. You may very well be right that he's a lassie-faire type. We'll see as I watch his videos.

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        2. Chaos‏ @chaosprime May 21
          Replying to @chaosprime @ColumPaget

          the government enforcing monogamy would be bad because the government could be taken over and the enforcement could be changed. what's desired is grassroots enforcement, treatment of those who don't behave properly as scum

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        3. ColumPaget‏ @ColumPaget May 21
          Replying to @chaosprime

          well, historically the government has enforced monogamy, and don't tell me that monogamy means government mandated gf, because we both know that's not what it's meant historically. That's just a twitter meme.

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        4. Chaos‏ @chaosprime May 21
          Replying to @ColumPaget

          i've said what it means like six times now it means that the social conditions mean heterosexually pairbond or die

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        5. ColumPaget‏ @ColumPaget May 21
          Replying to @chaosprime

          you've repeated posted an equation that appeared to suggest that monogamy meant everyone had to have one partner. and I'm not pairbonded, but I'm not dead yet. I will be eventually, but so will married couples.

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        6. Chaos‏ @chaosprime May 21
          Replying to @ColumPaget

          right, because we don't live in an enforced monogamy society (though it'll only be women that are forced to have partners of course)

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        7. ColumPaget‏ @ColumPaget May 21
          Replying to @chaosprime

          nonsense. We do live in an enforced monogamy society, you can only marry one person by law. That's what it means, and word games from either you or Mr Peterson won't change that.

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        8. Chaos‏ @chaosprime May 21
          Replying to @ColumPaget

          if we lived in an enforced monogamy society in the way Peterson wants, it would be nonsensical for Peterson to suggest we could change to an enforced monogamy society to solve our problems

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        9. ColumPaget‏ @ColumPaget May 21
          Replying to @chaosprime

          I agree, it would! That's why I think he must be suggesting government-mandated-gf if he's suggesting anything. This raises another issue, which is the number of people following alternative lifestyles in this regard is still very few, so they can't be the cause of troubles.

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