I've finally gotten around to watching some Jordan Peterson, after seeing someone calling for his 'followers' to be shot. This is an eloquent, rational man, and I've seen a lot of strong evidence that his detractors are a bunch of murderous loons.
sure, that's the case if you think a trad going "oh, nice society you have here, too bad violent young men are gonna shred it in an orgy of ultraviolence, oh hey weren't these past enforced monogamy societies lovely" is pure description i have a bridge in Brooklyn on sale cheap
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well yes, but the left (the new left, but they're the dominant left now) is telling me that violent men are going to shred it unless we adopt their policies. So really there's not daylight between the two sides on that issue.
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frankly i think you have an extremely outdated idea of how much weight the voices you're talking about carry compared to how much they carried precisely two years ago
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people have been telling me that every year for eight years now. It'll be true eventually, but I'm not sure it is yet. This farrago has a lot longer to run.
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This is exactly the problem I have with much of the left/right discourse these days, the sides have become so alike that we're being offered no real choices. Let's say I want to turn back my country's increasingly draconian laws on things like porn etc, who do I vote for? No-one.
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