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    1. ColumPaget‏ @ColumPaget May 21

      I've finally gotten around to watching some Jordan Peterson, after seeing someone calling for his 'followers' to be shot. This is an eloquent, rational man, and I've seen a lot of strong evidence that his detractors are a bunch of murderous loons.

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    2. ColumPaget‏ @ColumPaget May 21

      When someone as mild as Peterson is considered to be too controversial, we have a broken politics, and most significantly a broken left. Soon we will have a broken society. The result, sooner or later, one way or another, is going to be a reboot back to more traditional society.

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      Chaos‏ @chaosprime May 21
      Replying to @ColumPaget

      on the one hand, he has basic theory of mind about his political opponents and advocates good practices like "first put your house in order" on the other hand, "enforce monogamy", "gee does casual sex necessitate government tyranny" stating these calmly doesn't make them "mild"

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        2. ColumPaget‏ @ColumPaget May 21
          Replying to @chaosprime

          I've been watching videos all night and I've not come across those opinions yet, but I think they come up later in his output, during the great 'incel panic' of 2018.

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        3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime May 21
          Replying to @ColumPaget

          they're on his twitter and have been plastered about rather thoroughly

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        4. ColumPaget‏ @ColumPaget May 21
          Replying to @chaosprime

          hmm, I'm kinda looking into his videos rather than his twitter. Twitter is a good way to misexpress yourself. Still, I probably will look at his twitter later.

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        2. ColumPaget‏ @ColumPaget May 21
          Replying to @chaosprime

          He didn't really say 'enforce monogamy' though, from what I recall, he said the reason why societies often do that is to prevent a few males monopolizing all the females. I don't think that's a contraversial statement.

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        3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime May 21
          Replying to @ColumPaget

          Chaos Retweeted Jordan B Peterson

          https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/998088964719464449 …

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          Jordan B PetersonVerified account @jordanbpeterson
          Furthermore, anyone motivated by the NY Times to assume that what I meant by "enforced monogamy" was anything other than social convention favoring stable pair bonding can think whatever they want, as they no doubt will anyway... https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/998087424814256128 …
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        4. ColumPaget‏ @ColumPaget May 21
          Replying to @chaosprime

          Well, I thought he meant 'enforced monogamy in law', as has been the norm in much of the world. If it's not in law it's not really enforced!

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        5. Chaos‏ @chaosprime May 21
          Replying to @ColumPaget

          that's not strictly true, it depends on the strength of custom and whether there's a social safety net

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        6. ColumPaget‏ @ColumPaget May 21
          Replying to @chaosprime

          I agree there's a lot of variants on the system, but I think monogamy has been a very common solution, historically speaking.

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        7. Chaos‏ @chaosprime May 21
          Replying to @ColumPaget

          sure, that's the case if you think a trad going "oh, nice society you have here, too bad violent young men are gonna shred it in an orgy of ultraviolence, oh hey weren't these past enforced monogamy societies lovely" is pure description i have a bridge in Brooklyn on sale cheap

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        8. ColumPaget‏ @ColumPaget May 21
          Replying to @chaosprime

          well yes, but the left (the new left, but they're the dominant left now) is telling me that violent men are going to shred it unless we adopt their policies. So really there's not daylight between the two sides on that issue.

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        9. Chaos‏ @chaosprime May 21
          Replying to @ColumPaget

          frankly i think you have an extremely outdated idea of how much weight the voices you're talking about carry compared to how much they carried precisely two years ago

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        2. Kevin‏ @kevin_bowen May 21
          Replying to @chaosprime @ColumPaget

          I would say actually advocating for those positions is non-mild, but simply entertaining them in a thought-experimenty way isn't

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        3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime May 21
          Replying to @kevin_bowen @ColumPaget

          that's fair, but having declared one's intention to battle the eternal feminine in its manifestation as the dragon of chaos does skew my estimation of whether these are some interesting ideas one has just happened across and wanted to bounce off of everybody

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        4. Chaos‏ @chaosprime May 21
          Replying to @chaosprime @kevin_bowen @ColumPaget

          when i put it like that it sounds so fun, though, i guess i should declare my intention to battle the eternal masculine in its manifestation as the scrubby white guy of order

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        5. Kevin‏ @kevin_bowen May 21
          Replying to @chaosprime @ColumPaget

          Yeah, I've always wanted to slay a dragon tbh

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