So like, I’m probably about to offend some people, but... We all know you can’t be both antifascist and pro-Israel, right? You can’t claim to be opposed to fascism while supporting a religious ethnostate, engaged in genocide against the people whose land it occupies.
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And while we’re at it: conflating criticism of Israel with antisemitism IS IN AND OF ITSELF ANTISEMITIC. Insisting that criticism of Israel is inherently expressing hatred of Jews is an antisemitic conflation of the Israeli state as representative of all Jews.
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Replying to @ElleArmageddon @OaklandElle
Yep. All that said, I feel obliged whenever saying this to also emphasize that many critics of Israel on the Left DO flirt or directly pickle themselves in anti-semitism while using the "opposing Israel isn't anti-semitic" shield.
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Replying to @rechelon @OaklandElle
could either Israel or bankers stop being extremely bad, that'd be really helpful
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Replying to @chaosprime @rechelon
Why the fuck would you bring up bankers in a discussion about antisemitism?
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o.O because "Israel is bad" and "bankers are bad" are the two best ways to get a bunch of antisemites agreeing with you and a bunch of other people calling you antisemitic
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i'm boggled by not only your response occurring but it accumulating favs maybe someday i'll figure out whether i was supposed to have not noticed long-standing cultural formations or just pretend i hadn't
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Replying to @chaosprime @rechelon
Maybe when people are having a conversation about antisemitic tropes, don’t take it upon yourself to a) justify them, and b) insert new antisemitic tropes into the discussion.
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thread about how criticizing something associated with jews isn't antisemitic saying that something else people associate with jews is bad is justifying antisemitism gotcha, aye-aye cap'n
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Replying to @chaosprime @rechelon
When you say shit like “it would help if they weren’t so awful,” that’s a justification. Maybe don’t say things like that.
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well that's doing my head in
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