tactical qualia falsification is the information age's tragedy of the commons and is literally why we cannot have nice things
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Replying to @chaosprime
I want to know more about this; do you mean falsely inducing genuine qualia or lying about which qualia we experience, or some third thing
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Replying to @chaosprime
how can a genuine quale be 'falsely' induced? The truth is in the internal experience, however generated.
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Replying to @palecur
the falsification in that case is the chain of causal necessity between whatever you want blamed for your qualia and your qualia
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Replying to @chaosprime
i am not sure i understand correctly, is this one of those 'I am horny because of a hottie in view, this frustrates me, therefore the hottie is doing this to me because they are nefarious, not because I have fucked up ideas about sex and other people' sort of things?
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Replying to @palecur
among other things, when i think of it i always think of an old ladyfriend who got dumped and spent months cultivating her state of misery over it so that would have to mean he'd have to take her back (and recruits from her friends should talk him into it)
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Replying to @chaosprime
So the quale (misery) is genuine but the attributive chain is falsified, leading to ineffective response actions. Sorry for the robot-talk, this is just how I initially grasp things
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Replying to @palecur
your robot-talk is perfectly sensible! and yeah, basically. it's just an economic response: when we make valuable resources available to people experiencing unpleasant qualia, we are literally asking for people to either lie to us about their qualia or manufacture negative ones
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Replying to @chaosprime @palecur
this seems to me to be another example of goodhart's law: the strength of people's feelings about X is a decent measure of how many resources should be devoted to X, precisely until you start actually following that rule
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there is considerable justice in what you say
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In our current environment, I've noticed that the people who most need resources are the people who are too embarrassed to ask for them and not sure they should be there, generally.
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i know someone who absolutely qualifies for MH disability but won't even try because they're sure it won't be granted, it is frustrating.
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