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    Chaos‏ @chaosprime May 11

    tactical qualia falsification is the information age's tragedy of the commons and is literally why we cannot have nice things

    10:07 AM - 11 May 2018
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      1. Chaos‏ @chaosprime May 11

        RT @[REDACTED]: qualia falsification deficit syndrome is psychiatric disease of our era. QFDS is incredibly treatment resistant and results in crippling systems such as honesty, realism, taste cultivation, and difficulty relating to people

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      2. Paul E  🖤 ✖️‏ @palecur May 11
        Replying to @chaosprime

        I want to know more about this; do you mean falsely inducing genuine qualia or lying about which qualia we experience, or some third thing

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      3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime May 11
        Replying to @palecur

        both of those actually

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      4. Paul E  🖤 ✖️‏ @palecur May 11
        Replying to @chaosprime

        how can a genuine quale be 'falsely' induced? The truth is in the internal experience, however generated.

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      5. Chaos‏ @chaosprime May 11
        Replying to @palecur

        the falsification in that case is the chain of causal necessity between whatever you want blamed for your qualia and your qualia

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      6. Paul E  🖤 ✖️‏ @palecur May 11
        Replying to @chaosprime

        i am not sure i understand correctly, is this one of those 'I am horny because of a hottie in view, this frustrates me, therefore the hottie is doing this to me because they are nefarious, not because I have fucked up ideas about sex and other people' sort of things?

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      7. Chaos‏ @chaosprime May 11
        Replying to @palecur

        among other things, when i think of it i always think of an old ladyfriend who got dumped and spent months cultivating her state of misery over it so that would have to mean he'd have to take her back (and recruits from her friends should talk him into it)

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      8. Paul E  🖤 ✖️‏ @palecur May 11
        Replying to @chaosprime

        So the quale (misery) is genuine but the attributive chain is falsified, leading to ineffective response actions. Sorry for the robot-talk, this is just how I initially grasp things

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      9. Chaos‏ @chaosprime May 11
        Replying to @palecur

        your robot-talk is perfectly sensible! and yeah, basically. it's just an economic response: when we make valuable resources available to people experiencing unpleasant qualia, we are literally asking for people to either lie to us about their qualia or manufacture negative ones

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      2. Master of Obscurity‏ @masterobscurity May 11
        Replying to @chaosprime

        Are you going in the direction that if society is to progress fiction must be abolished (or at least radically curtailed)?

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      3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime May 11
        Replying to @masterobscurity

        not at all, i'd rather see society abolished to save fiction than fiction abolished to save society

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      2. Andre‏ @androgynandre May 11
        Replying to @chaosprime

        started reading this as "tila tequila fascination..."

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      3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime May 11
        Replying to @androgynandre

        not all that much less true

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      1. Sexy Banana Costume‏ @literalbanana May 11
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        I kind of buy this for real

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