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    1. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 5 May 2018
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      (if we were attempting to address The Incel Problem it'd be increasing representation of less attractive women that i could conceivably think is useful)

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    2. Monoid Mary‏ @argumatronic 5 May 2018
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      i have never read an incel forum where that was what they were asking for, so i feel a bit like you're motte-and-baileying. sure, that could be a net positive thing to do and within the realm of "redistribution of sex" but that's surely not what anyone is actually asking for.

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    3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 5 May 2018
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      oh whoof i'm not saying we should give incels anything they say they want. i'm just mad at people reading robin hanson going "by redistribution i mean anything that changes the distribution" and responding with "redistribution means confiscation to me so you mean rape"

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    4. Monoid Mary‏ @argumatronic 5 May 2018
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      but surely when people talk about redistributing income (to alleviate income inequality) the typical reading is "confiscating income" albeit generally via the tax code; i think he's written about this as well that "redistribution" means confiscation.

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    5. Robert E. P. Levy‏ @rplevy 6 May 2018
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      The only ethical redistrubution of anything is voluntary, via individual choice in a spontaneously self-organizing society.

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    6. Robert E. P. Levy‏ @rplevy 6 May 2018
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      Here is an article "Libertarians for Redistribution" that I appreciated when I read. https://c4ss.org/content/12961  It is clearly the assumption of the author and most readers including myself, that the starting assumption is that redistribution implies coercion. That is what it means.

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    7. Robert E. P. Levy‏ @rplevy 6 May 2018
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      cc/ @kevin_bowen the point I'm making and that @argumatronic is making is that most people, especially libertarians (who think most coherently and unambiguously about this out of everyone) wold see redistribution as coercive. Hence an article like the above having to redefine it

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    8. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 6 May 2018
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      and the appropriate thing to do when somebody says "i'm not using the term that way" is to say "no you meant what i decided you meant"?

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    9. Robert E. P. Levy‏ @rplevy 6 May 2018
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      No, but did he initially make that clear?

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    10. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 6 May 2018
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      Chaos Retweeted Robin Hanson

      how initial is this?https://twitter.com/robinhanson/status/990259534923956225 …

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      Robin HansonVerified account @robinhanson
      "Redistribution" means "change the distribution". A great many who have commented can't imagine any policy options to change the distribution of sex access other than rape and slavery, and so accuse me of advocating such things. But a great many other policy options exist.
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      Chaos‏ @chaosprime 6 May 2018
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      honestly all i want here is for y'all to be slightly less trivially trolled

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