starting to suspect the great human binary divides people who (can? do?) separate empirical claims and abstractions generally from Machiavellian social considerations, and those who can't or won't
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Like--consider (eg) kerfuffle over TBC. My guess is the main lay objection reduces to "you're going to use this to get an edge on me." And I'm not sure that's an invalid concern, honestly! Point is that normie spectrum folks are relatively, especially predisposed . . .
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. . . to view abstractions as social plays and there's nothing to be done about it but avoid letting your threatening abstractions leak to the MOPs. Once it's out, defending it as an *idea* is pointless, because the MOPs aren't interacting to an idea but to a social danger.
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Replying to @eigenrobot
the thing that sucks is that this basically winds up at crusty old dudes' whining about postmodernism pomo is many dessert toppings and floor waxes but among them is for sure the idea that everything is power games before and/or instead of anything else
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Replying to @chaosprime @eigenrobot
I think it can be pretty well established that support for post-modernist philosophy is, in essence, a power game. *stares off*
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that's the thing, like, when we're talking about "supporting" philosophy sturgeon's law is already in action philosophy isn't a "support" thing, politics is a "support" thing, philosophy is a "use" thing
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The biggest trouble with Sturgeon's Law is the implication that 10% of anything must not be crud, and we both easily think of things with 0% of not non-crud.
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yeah, that's true, also Utility Georg is an outlier and should not have been counted i just don't think pomo is one of them. if you give a bunch of monkeys a jackhammer, they'll do a bunch of awful things with it, that doesn't mean jackhammers are bad or useless
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who and/or what is Utility Georg is it like Manuel of the Planes
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he sits in a cave doing things that are 0% crap, distorting the math on Sturgeon's Law
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