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    1. masquerobot‏ @eigenrobot May 3

      . . . to view abstractions as social plays and there's nothing to be done about it but avoid letting your threatening abstractions leak to the MOPs. Once it's out, defending it as an *idea* is pointless, because the MOPs aren't interacting to an idea but to a social danger.

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    2. Chaos‏ @chaosprime May 3
      Replying to @eigenrobot

      the thing that sucks is that this basically winds up at crusty old dudes' whining about postmodernism pomo is many dessert toppings and floor waxes but among them is for sure the idea that everything is power games before and/or instead of anything else

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    3. Paul E  🖤 ✖️‏ @palecur May 3
      Replying to @chaosprime @eigenrobot

      I will never stop whining about postmodernism because it is the death of all meaning, despair in a fancy bowtie

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    4. Chaos‏ @chaosprime May 3
      Replying to @palecur @eigenrobot

      yeah, this shit lol pale cur will you tell me which pomo you are talking about here? like, quote some statement attributable to pomo that this follows from?

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    5. Paul E  🖤 ✖️‏ @palecur May 3
      Replying to @chaosprime @eigenrobot

      I'm thinkin derrida in the main but really the entirety of death of the author

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    6. Chaos‏ @chaosprime May 3
      Replying to @palecur @eigenrobot

      okay, i can see it. but isn't that just a basic ass accurate observation, that it matters to us what we read not what dude was trying to write, that like all things is subject to sturgeon's law in what people do with it?

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    7. Paul E  🖤 ✖️‏ @palecur May 3
      Replying to @chaosprime @eigenrobot

      that seems basic-ass, yeah; but mainly i see Death of the Author used to claim that any random idiot's wilfully ignorant misinterpretation of a text is just as valid as an actual analysis that engages with authorial intent

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    8. Paul E  🖤 ✖️‏ @palecur May 3
      Replying to @palecur @chaosprime @eigenrobot

      This is irksome because if art is anything at all, it's communication of authorial intent -- art is work with a result intended to induce a sequence of emotional states in the experiencer of the work's result. DotAuthor denies that communicative act.

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    9. Chaos‏ @chaosprime May 3
      Replying to @palecur @eigenrobot

      and i totally agree that that's taking it too far in a revealingly self-indulgent direction, i just don't think that means the core observation is bad or useless, because people take literally fucking everything too far in a revealingly self-indulgent direction

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    10. Paul E  🖤 ✖️‏ @palecur May 3
      Replying to @chaosprime @eigenrobot

      yeah, I can stipulate to that

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      Chaos‏ @chaosprime May 3
      Replying to @palecur @eigenrobot

      i just realized that it's exactly like Java: the language is fine, the culture is terrible you and @StevenBrust don't hate postmodern philosophy, you hate postmodern culture which you should because it's fucking terrible

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        2. Steven Brust‏Verified account @StevenBrust May 3
          Replying to @chaosprime @palecur @eigenrobot

          Dunno. I could make an argument for the opposite, at least insofar as I'd include Zelazny in pomo culture. (Though perhaps that more post-structuralist, which opens a whole new can of cliches.)

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        3. Paul E  🖤 ✖️‏ @palecur May 3
          Replying to @StevenBrust @chaosprime @eigenrobot

          speaking of which, what should I try of Zelazny's if I found Nine Princes bad due to there being nobody in the book I didn't want dead

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        4. masquerobot‏ @eigenrobot May 3
          Replying to @palecur @StevenBrust @chaosprime

          I quit after 40 pages

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        5. Chaos‏ @chaosprime May 3
          Replying to @eigenrobot @palecur @StevenBrust

          😭

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        2. Paul E  🖤 ✖️‏ @palecur May 3
          Replying to @chaosprime @eigenrobot @StevenBrust

          java is fine once you hack strong types into it

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        3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime May 3
          Replying to @palecur @eigenrobot @StevenBrust

          pomo + typing when

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