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Like--consider (eg) kerfuffle over TBC. My guess is the main lay objection reduces to "you're going to use this to get an edge on me." And I'm not sure that's an invalid concern, honestly! Point is that normie spectrum folks are relatively, especially predisposed . . .
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. . . to view abstractions as social plays and there's nothing to be done about it but avoid letting your threatening abstractions leak to the MOPs. Once it's out, defending it as an *idea* is pointless, because the MOPs aren't interacting to an idea but to a social danger.
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Replying to @eigenrobot
the thing that sucks is that this basically winds up at crusty old dudes' whining about postmodernism pomo is many dessert toppings and floor waxes but among them is for sure the idea that everything is power games before and/or instead of anything else
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Replying to @chaosprime @eigenrobot
I will never stop whining about postmodernism because it is the death of all meaning, despair in a fancy bowtie
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Replying to @palecur @eigenrobot
yeah, this shit lol pale cur will you tell me which pomo you are talking about here? like, quote some statement attributable to pomo that this follows from?
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Replying to @chaosprime @eigenrobot
I'm thinkin derrida in the main but really the entirety of death of the author
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Replying to @palecur @eigenrobot
okay, i can see it. but isn't that just a basic ass accurate observation, that it matters to us what we read not what dude was trying to write, that like all things is subject to sturgeon's law in what people do with it?
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Replying to @chaosprime @eigenrobot
that seems basic-ass, yeah; but mainly i see Death of the Author used to claim that any random idiot's wilfully ignorant misinterpretation of a text is just as valid as an actual analysis that engages with authorial intent
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This is irksome because if art is anything at all, it's communication of authorial intent -- art is work with a result intended to induce a sequence of emotional states in the experiencer of the work's result. DotAuthor denies that communicative act.
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and i totally agree that that's taking it too far in a revealingly self-indulgent direction, i just don't think that means the core observation is bad or useless, because people take literally fucking everything too far in a revealingly self-indulgent direction
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Replying to @palecur @eigenrobot
i just realized that it's exactly like Java: the language is fine, the culture is terrible you and
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