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    1. Chaos‏ @chaosprime May 2
      Replying to @McNationalist_ @woke8yearold

      and here we were always told losers blaming society for their problems was a left wing problem

      3 replies 2 retweets 27 likes
    2. Tyto Alba‏ @euneaux May 2
      Replying to @chaosprime @McNationalist_ @woke8yearold

      That's actually an apt metaphor for a "winner take all marketplace." Losers complaining about injustice & blaming society. That doesn't mean there's no suffering or unfairness. Do we think it would be possible to create some alternate celibate life path with dignity?

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    3. Tyto Alba‏ @euneaux May 2
      Replying to @euneaux @chaosprime and

      It's not necessarily a matter of redistributing sex. It's really about redistributing status & esteem. If we measure manhood & success by the Hugh Hefner ideal, there's no way for them to feel good.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    4. Chaos‏ @chaosprime May 2
      Replying to @euneaux @McNationalist_ @woke8yearold

      i hope you aren't horrified to learn that you have just identified the actual problem as toxic masculinity but yeah the fact that it's all about homosocial status competition is one of the things that disgusts me most about the incel discourse tbh

      3 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    5. Tyto Alba‏ @euneaux May 2
      Replying to @chaosprime @McNationalist_ @woke8yearold

      The intrasexual status competition is certainly PART of it, but besides a desire for esteem & status (that preoccupies both men and women, toxic masculinity or no), there is also a universal intrinsic hunger for companionship & intimacy.

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    6. Tyto Alba‏ @euneaux May 2
      Replying to @euneaux @chaosprime and

      The lonely incel guys I know don't feel "entitled women's bodies" nor are they keen to rape anybody. Sure they're frustrated & sometimes bitter, but mostly they're sweet sensitive guys who yearn for companionship & intimacy. Touch & sex make up only a fraction of their desire.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Tyto Alba‏ @euneaux May 2
      Replying to @euneaux @chaosprime and

      What's so outrageous about the vitriolic and frankly mean response to their very existence is the complete denial of their humanity. Of course nobody expects anybody to actually DO anything. But a little recognition of their humanity and effort for empathy might be constructive.

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      Chaos‏ @chaosprime May 2
      Replying to @euneaux @McNationalist_ @woke8yearold

      i recognize their humanity; i'm one missing habit of asking myself "is this thing i'm thinking maybe self-serving?" from going down the same rabbit hole as them. my ability to relate to why they're the way they are is why their cowardice fills me with such ire and contempt.

      10:34 PM - 2 May 2018
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        2. Chaos‏ @chaosprime May 2
          Replying to @chaosprime @euneaux and

          lots of people who are mad at them are coming from a completely othering perspective, though, you're not wrong about that

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        3. Tyto Alba‏ @euneaux May 2
          Replying to @chaosprime @McNationalist_ @woke8yearold

          The rage & disgust are probably natural reflexes to people whose experiences are so different. Although this is pretty over the top caricatured, it seems pretty sincere. The fellow who wrote it is a well respected maths professor so I lend it some credence.

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        4. Tyto Alba‏ @euneaux May 2
          Replying to @euneaux @chaosprime and

          After I read this account from Professor Scott Aaronson, I realized there are guys suffering alone in shame and isolation and there is practically nobody they can talk to about this and nobody who cares to help them.http://slatestarcodex.com/2015/01/01/untitled/ …

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