and here we were always told losers blaming society for their problems was a left wing problem
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That's actually an apt metaphor for a "winner take all marketplace." Losers complaining about injustice & blaming society. That doesn't mean there's no suffering or unfairness. Do we think it would be possible to create some alternate celibate life path with dignity?
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It's not necessarily a matter of redistributing sex. It's really about redistributing status & esteem. If we measure manhood & success by the Hugh Hefner ideal, there's no way for them to feel good.
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i hope you aren't horrified to learn that you have just identified the actual problem as toxic masculinity but yeah the fact that it's all about homosocial status competition is one of the things that disgusts me most about the incel discourse tbh
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The intrasexual status competition is certainly PART of it, but besides a desire for esteem & status (that preoccupies both men and women, toxic masculinity or no), there is also a universal intrinsic hunger for companionship & intimacy.
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yes, it's too bad that honest and good impulse is poisoned by feeling like companionship and intimacy are worthless if they come from a "post-carousel 4"
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