and here we were always told losers blaming society for their problems was a left wing problem
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The intrasexual status competition is certainly PART of it, but besides a desire for esteem & status (that preoccupies both men and women, toxic masculinity or no), there is also a universal intrinsic hunger for companionship & intimacy.
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The lonely incel guys I know don't feel "entitled women's bodies" nor are they keen to rape anybody. Sure they're frustrated & sometimes bitter, but mostly they're sweet sensitive guys who yearn for companionship & intimacy. Touch & sex make up only a fraction of their desire.
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What's so outrageous about the vitriolic and frankly mean response to their very existence is the complete denial of their humanity. Of course nobody expects anybody to actually DO anything. But a little recognition of their humanity and effort for empathy might be constructive.
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The media is always sharing the hard-knock-life stories of actual murderers trying to make us pity them. Why can't we have a little compassion for these guys when their only sin was to express desire?
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Of course there are probably also some who've gone off the deep end who have gone well past their frustration and succumbed to bitterness & hate. What do we do with these?
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If they're dangerous we lock them up or eradicate them. No other choices. If they can be rehabilitated and safely integrated into society, calling them hateful things we wouldn't call convicted murderers can hardly be constructive.
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yeah, i can't defend the over the top things some people are apparently saying, taking responsibility for my own shit is more than enough for me
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No need to defend it. We just need to realize that if we treat people like monsters or animals, they might become that which we most fear. Which is what I'd tell any guys who started sharing with me unrealistic views about women.
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Even if there is something to it, I'm not terribly fond of that particular "toxic masculinity" term. It's pretty demeaning. After going to so much trouble to make language gender neutral & respectful, I'd hope we could conceive something less provocative & more neutral.
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No our problem is negative emotion, low social status, and loneliness.
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