Imagine this. You are a part of what theologians and philosophers try to understand and describe as "God" or "The Universe". Are you determined by other peoples attempts to define you? What do you determine self-wise? (rhetorical) This is a question in Zen.
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then you have actual gods, which are emergent phenomena in social behavior, which theologians mostly avoid talking about but philosophers discuss sometimes. when theologians do talk about them, it's usually to try to identify them with supernatural/extranatural stuff
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those exist in social pattern space so the work of the theologians and philosophers is relevant to them, though "determine" would be a strong word. if you piss in the river, you're involved in the waterfall, but saying you determine it would be a bit much
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