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    1. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Apr 19

      Chaos Retweeted 𝙼𝚊𝚝𝚝𝚑𝚎𝚠 𝚁𝚘𝚜𝚎𝚗𝚋𝚎𝚛𝚐

      as a former comic shop financial supporter (i hesitate to call the way i was bleeding out "investment") i know this guy means well but i kind of want to smack him; "first issues sell more" is for all practical purposes industry myth that encourages horrorshttps://twitter.com/AshcanPress/status/987053893757612034 …

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      𝙼𝚊𝚝𝚝𝚑𝚎𝚠 𝚁𝚘𝚜𝚎𝚗𝚋𝚎𝚛𝚐Verified account @AshcanPress
      From my POV as a lifelong reader, former comic shop employee, former employee of a publisher, and current creator- I'm happy to have a #1 on books because it's easy for new readers and it sells more. I'm happy for legacy numbering because I like seeing my place in the history.
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    2. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Apr 19

      it's nice for new readers and *that's it*. the bulk of the inflated sales numbers on a #1 are a consequence of nonreturnability in the direct market; they're copies THE STORES bought because they can't accurately estimate demand for a #1

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    3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Apr 19

      the famously cliff-like #2 + #3 sales drop is absolutely nothing but stores having *any meaningful data* on what they can move. the #1 spike was just cost burden being shuffled from production and distribution to retail.

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    4. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Apr 19

      the result? *constant* relaunches at #1, because It Is Known that "first issues sell more". which is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING but further cannibalization of the direct market, a money transfer from retail to production and distribution.

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    5. 𝙼𝚊𝚝𝚝𝚑𝚎𝚠 𝚁𝚘𝚜𝚎𝚗𝚋𝚎𝚛𝚐‏Verified account @AshcanPress Apr 19
      Replying to @chaosprime

      Weird that retailers keep buying into it if it just hemorages them money.

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    6. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Apr 19
      Replying to @AshcanPress

      retailers are mostly true believers at some level, which means they don't even work out the economics of their situation, and even if they did what choice do they have but to try as hard as they can to get people to jump on first issues?

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    7. 𝙼𝚊𝚝𝚝𝚑𝚎𝚠 𝚁𝚘𝚜𝚎𝚗𝚋𝚎𝚛𝚐‏Verified account @AshcanPress Apr 19
      Replying to @chaosprime

      So they hemorrhage money every year but don't anyway? Weird. The shop I worked in, 7th biggest in North America, sold on average upwards of 200% more copies of issue ones of rebooted series. But we may have been an outlier.

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      Chaos‏ @chaosprime Apr 19
      Replying to @AshcanPress

      things are probably a little different at big stores; this was a real mom & pop i was dealing with. what year this was is pretty important, too. #1 sales bumps were a lot more significant before they started being leaned on like a drunk leans on a lamppost.

      1:34 PM - 19 Apr 2018
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        2. 𝙼𝚊𝚝𝚝𝚑𝚎𝚠 𝚁𝚘𝚜𝚎𝚗𝚋𝚎𝚛𝚐‏Verified account @AshcanPress Apr 19
          Replying to @chaosprime

          Mine was 4 years ago I guess? That's when I left to work in publishing? 5? And yes, each store is definitely different.

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        3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Apr 19
          Replying to @AshcanPress

          okay. i got out last August. the "get them #1 sales!" button got pushed A LOT of times in the intervening years

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        4. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Apr 19
          Replying to @chaosprime @AshcanPress

          Chaos Retweeted Dan Garfield

          have some more anecdata over here too:https://twitter.com/danlistensto/status/987066273736642560 …

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          Dan Garfield @danlistensto
          Replying to @chaosprime
          as a former comic shop shitjob retail employee, I can forward a story on #1 issues. we used excess #1s for two things: wallpapering the bathroom and giving away to 10 year olds who wandered into the shop but had no cash.
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        5. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Apr 19
          Replying to @chaosprime @AshcanPress

          this isn't to say that a #1 that's legitimately of a new series isn't cause for celebration no matter how many of those there are. it's the relaunches that make my blood boil

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