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    1. Cathy Reisenwitz 🗽 🌐 🥑‏Verified account @CathyReisenwitz 7 Mar 2018
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      A lot of conservatives think ethical non-monogamy is all about maximizing pleasure. I think it's much more about living honestly and sustainably. Iti's about not trying to fit a round peg into a square hole. Because that often fails, and when it does, the results are traumatic.

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    2. despairagus‏ @palecur 7 Mar 2018
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      I'd say it's a distinction without a difference; living honestly and sustainably in ways that avoid traumatic results of failing to fit into a structure *is*, in fact, maximizing pleasure. But then, I don't think 'maximizing pleasure' is anything to look askance at.

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    3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 7 Mar 2018
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      usually that's regarded as Epicurean hedonism, minimizing suffering rather than maximizing pleasure whereas people continually have a bad attitude about Cyreniac party-til-you-puke hedonism that's specifically about maximizing pleasure

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    4. despairagus‏ @palecur 7 Mar 2018
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      I think I don't see the distinction very clearly; suffering very clearly gets in the way of pleasure and increasing pleasure without minimizing suffering runs into diminishing returns pretty dang fast! Also, puking is unpleasant so it seems maximally hedonic to stop before that.

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    5. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 7 Mar 2018
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      yeah, that's all basically the Epicurean position i guess probably it won for good reasons

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    6. despairagus‏ @palecur 7 Mar 2018
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      as someone with limited exposure to the greek classics, am I just reinventing all this shit, basically?

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    7. despairagus‏ @palecur 7 Mar 2018
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      Because I'm lazy and I'll just read Epicurususus if he's got this all laid out

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      Chaos‏ @chaosprime 7 Mar 2018
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      shrug, it's probably worthwhile, but yeah he basically reached the conclusion that the way to in fact maximize pleasure is to focus on eliminating negative pleasure rather than adding positive pleasure

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        2. despairagus‏ @palecur 7 Mar 2018
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          porq' no los dos mij@

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        3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 7 Mar 2018
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          now we're talking

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