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having been notified about Cartagena, i am now certain that New Crobuzon is named for Crobuzon, which is named for Crobuz (-on meaning "new" in a dead language), which is named for Cro (-buz meaning "new" in a different dead language)
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It's even funnier to me because I used to play a cyberpunk MOO that took place in "new Carthage." and I'm only now getting the joke.
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and *who even knows* whether it was intentional
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I really wish cyberspere A) still existed B) wasn't toxic as hell.
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Correction: It still fucking exists, and has more players now than I remember back in the early 2010s. I bet it's still a giant circle jerk though.
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i mean, you already said it's a MOO
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And the reason we know it as Carthage is that Romans were kind of like Brits and Americans: "No, we can't pronounce your city/country name so we're going to change it and everyone will know it by OUR version in the future." All language is corruption.
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though the existence of an exonym is also a sign of respect in a way, it means the external entity is significant enough in the culture to have a local symbol
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Yup. The people in North America and South America were so THRILLED when the Europeans found them to be significant enough to be worth renaming after 1492. There is still a strain of magic in the world that believes if you can NAME something, you have power over it.
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new city who dis
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Old: York Bold: New York Foretold: New New York
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I had the same reaction in Thailand: "Chiang Mai means 'New City' and was so named because it became the new capital of Lan Na when it was founded in 1296, succeeding Chiang Rai, the former capital founded in 1262."
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Now look up the original Latin name for Cartegena.
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I believe the bridge in Paris called "le Pont Neuf" (i.e. new bridge) is the oldest bridge in the city
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Naples
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