if I tell you that I know what it's like to be Dan Garfield, do you believe me? why? that argument is what the Turing Test is about, and ultimately why it's unsatisfactory.
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understood. conversational fluency is not a satisfactory indicator of consciousness. it is neither necessary nor sufficient. so we're left with the issue of qualia and stuck reasoning about why it is that we believe anything (besides our own self) is conscious at all.
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you either get "hard problem" or "free will is an illusion" or "God is good so I'm not a brain in a jar" or "everything is conscious"
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I think I'm mostly ok with that last one too. It seems closer to correct (or satisfying to my aesthetics anyway) than the other three. I don't want to say _everything_ is conscious though. Figuring out what the varieties of consciousness are is a fun pursuit.
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i'd be comfortable saying "everything is conscious" if i'm understood to be saying that everything has a consciousness value in the range (0..1) and it's very difficult to tell very small values from zero
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the interesting bit is that electrons are one of the very few things that actually are ~things~ in the sense that we use the word, like people definitely aren't so i may be asserting that every possible combinatoric set of every elementary particle has a consciousness
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