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    1. Call Of Spooky: Ghosts‏ @PomoPsiOp Jan 2

      The only way free will can work is if the Many worlds therom of quantum mechanics is true, and each conscious derision results in a new universe. And quantum mechanics means that most of these decisions are being made by particles, with life forms being pretentious bundles.

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    2. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Jan 2
      Replying to @PomoPsiOp

      free will is fucking silly, either the universe is deterministic, which is nightmarish, or things happen for no reason, which is even more nightmarish

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    3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Jan 8
      Replying to @0Kultra @PomoPsiOp

      Der Gedanke an den Wärmetod ist ein starkes Trostmittel.

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    4. ColumPaget‏ @ColumPaget Jan 8
      Replying to @chaosprime @0Kultra @PomoPsiOp

      free will isn't silly, it's popular definitions of it that are askew. At the end of the day free will is, and can only be, acting in accordance with your own nature. The only alternative is dice-throwing. So there's no contradiction between free will and determinism.

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    5. ColumPaget‏ @ColumPaget Jan 8
      Replying to @0Kultra @chaosprime @PomoPsiOp

      well, one might raise questions about conciousness. But I would agree that fish do. Fish definitely want to do fishy things, and preventing them from doing so is interferring with their free will.

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    6. ColumPaget‏ @ColumPaget Jan 8
      Replying to @0Kultra @chaosprime @PomoPsiOp

      I think defining consciousness is a bit of a tough problem. I am not sure hard-disks or viruses qualify, I suspect fish might, but it's very hard to prove that. When harddrives or viruses start passing Turing tests, then I'll be ready to consider it.

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      Chaos‏ @chaosprime Jan 8
      Replying to @ColumPaget @0Kultra @PomoPsiOp

      the Turing test is narcissistic twaddle

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        2. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Jan 8
          Replying to @chaosprime @ColumPaget and

          as well judge whether your children are conscious by whether they have the exact same musical taste you do

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        2. Dan Garfield‏ @danlistensto Jan 8
          Replying to @chaosprime @ColumPaget and

          the Turing test was a thought experiment intended to address the idea of what machine intelligence, in principle, is capable of. this is a great read, and seems fresh and relevant 67 years later https://www.csee.umbc.edu/courses/471/papers/turing.pdf …

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        3. Dan Garfield‏ @danlistensto Jan 8
          Replying to @danlistensto @chaosprime and

          recommend going right to section 6 "contrary views on the main question" for the philosophical discussion

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        4. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Jan 8
          Replying to @danlistensto @ColumPaget and

          yeah, i should rather say "the Turing test considered as any kind of definitive benchmark of validity of an intelligence is narcissistic twaddle"

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        5. Dan Garfield‏ @danlistensto Jan 8
          Replying to @chaosprime @ColumPaget and

          right. the strangest thing about it is that it was later misinterpreted into being an actual contest, performed as a metric for the quality of conversation simulation algorithms. that emphatically wasn't the point of the the original thought experiment!

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