And in that situation, it's a deflection even if the person doing so has experienced abuse from a woman.
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yes so we're certainly doing a lot here to dispel the idea that one literally cannot say that the behavior called out in TZP was abusive without being buried under a pile of reflexive ideological pushback
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if gjoni was abusive then almost every girlfriend I've ever known (mine or others') was abusive, and I don't think most of them were
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Nevermind the bits of physical abuse, eh. Sure bud.
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most girlfriend's I've known would absolutely physically intervene if I tried to carry out a suicide threat in front of them
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i mean i love the idea that it's unethical to physically intervene in self-harm as the radical anarchist shit that it is, but it's definitely not a mainstream idea
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if I ever become convinced it's true I'll acknowledge that I'm just as bad as people who beat their partners for fucking up dinner or w/e
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i do not think either of our friends here is asserting that though it'd be nice if in practice tagging you as "abuser" at any level in any circumstances wasn't a signal to set you on fire socially forever
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that's absolutely what they're doing.
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i honestly do not think so Adrienne is quite capable of processing nuance and i don't know Sam but if he knows Adrienne he probably is too
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