@hatredismymuse how about the part where a guy who beat his girlfriend enough that she got a restraining order is maybe not a reliable narrator?
oh good now if we could translate that to assigning potential validity to others' concern with feminist rhetoric being used as cover for abusive behavior
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If only the concern expressed about that was proportionate to the incidence rather than deflection from more typical patterns of abuse.
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what level of statistical prevalence is necessary before somebody's life experience becomes valid for them to talk about?
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None. But again, many people talking about this issue aren't doing so out of personal experience.
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If the people talking about it were the people experiencing it, then it *would* be proportional.

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okay, but i don't see how it's relevant; clearly
@HatredIsMyMuse isn't talking about something he read in an email forward from his anti-women's-suffrage great-uncle -
bringing it up here is tantamount to an assertion that the people who do have the life experience need to shut up in order to compensate for the people who are talking about it without the life experience
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No, it really isn't. "But women can be abusive too" is a really common deflection tactic when a man is accused of abuse.
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And in that situation, it's a deflection even if the person doing so has experienced abuse from a woman.
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