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    Chaos‏ @chaosprime 13 Dec 2017

    you know what would be a good 28th Amendment blanket prohibition on generating revenue via law enforcement fines can still be levied but the money is taken out of circulation

    8:53 AM - 13 Dec 2017
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      2. Dan Garfield‏ @danlistensto 13 Dec 2017
        Replying to @chaosprime

        I like this suggestion, but rather than being strictly deflationary I would say that the fine should be automatically allocated to something actually good but not just funding law enforcement or any other government program. maybe fines should be replaced with compulsory charity

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      3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 13 Dec 2017
        Replying to @danlistensto

        nice in principle, up until the 401(c)3 certification of the Blood and Soil Foundation for the Preservation of European Culture

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      4. Dan Garfield‏ @danlistensto 13 Dec 2017
        Replying to @chaosprime

        Reputable! The problem of credentialing is a hard one but solvable imo

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      5. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 13 Dec 2017
        Replying to @danlistensto

        i don't think it is you are absolutely, positively never going to be able to not credential the Policemen's Really Very Good Charity

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      6. Dan Garfield‏ @danlistensto 13 Dec 2017
        Replying to @chaosprime

        I think that's a legitimate charity and if a person is judicially required to donate it should be an option, but not the only option.

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      7. Dan Garfield‏ @danlistensto 13 Dec 2017
        Replying to @danlistensto @chaosprime

        or rather, as much as I have beef with most of what I see presently from urban police departments, I don't think they are necessarily corrupt and that in principle a charity operated by and for police might be a legitimate good. e.g. providing for the widows of fallen officers.

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      8. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 13 Dec 2017
        Replying to @danlistensto

        okay. but on the other hand, if fines destroy money, consider the incentive structure when corporate America has a motivation to self-police to keep the fuckin' currency from going deflationary

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      9. Dan Garfield‏ @danlistensto 13 Dec 2017
        Replying to @chaosprime

        that gives them a powerful mechanism to manipulate the money supply via second order consequences and they can price their debt instruments accordingly which is horrible

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
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      2. just Another Dead Weirdo‏ @dead_weirdo 13 Dec 2017
        Replying to @chaosprime

        What if the money was then loaded into non-lethal weaponry? So instead of rubber bullets protesters are shot with ill-gotten wads of paper money? That way cops would think twice before showering protesters with hard, painful cash.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 13 Dec 2017
        Replying to @dead_weirdo

        fuckin' magic

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      2. Spooky Jenny Marx‏ @jenphalian 13 Dec 2017
        Replying to @chaosprime

        The money gets put into robots that distribute it to homeless people.

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 13 Dec 2017
        Replying to @jenphalian

        can't do it now the system is incentivized to generate crimes instead of directly addressing homelessness that's why it has to be taken out of circulation, financial fungibility means whatever you try to benefit using extractive practices you destroy

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      4. Spooky Jenny Marx‏ @jenphalian 13 Dec 2017
        Replying to @chaosprime

        Ahhhh yeah okay.

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      2. Jason Halloween Name ̆̈‏ @XaiaX 13 Dec 2017
        Replying to @chaosprime

        All fines are used to pay for basic income. Fines are wealth-proportional.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 13 Dec 2017
        Replying to @XaiaX

        Chaos Retweeted Chaos

        fun, but stillhttps://twitter.com/chaosprime/status/940992023921856512 …

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        Chaos @chaosprime
        Replying to @jenphalian
        can't do it now the system is incentivized to generate crimes instead of directly addressing homelessness that's why it has to be taken out of circulation, financial fungibility means whatever you try to benefit using extractive practices you destroy
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      4. Jason Halloween Name ̆̈‏ @XaiaX 13 Dec 2017
        Replying to @chaosprime

        It’s already incentivized to generate crimes. Hence the wealth proportional fines. Target the rich instead.

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      1. Man or Monster?‏ @MetaMonstah 13 Dec 2017
        Replying to @chaosprime

        Oh my god, yes.

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