exhortations to reject cynicism and embrace hope & trust are mostly not from monsters who want to burn your hope & trust like cordwood to build their power base they're from extremely nice people whose hope & trust are being burned like cordwood to build monsters' power base
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the opposite of cynicism isn't hope and trust, and cynicism is a powerful tool in the arsenal of monsters.
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cynicism is the belief that the world and your place in it are fixed. That's fake bullshit. The opposite is clear eyed understanding.
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except that's... not even approximately what cynicism is. possibly you're thinking of pessimism? the main actual idea is skepticism about people's supposed motivations for their actions which, like... is just a modicum of goddamn sense honestly
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i mean, i can see how people can confuse the cynic who says "that leader figure is a posturing liar" and the pessimist who says "nothing will ever get better" because they're both being ~negative~ in the febrile pop-psych usage but it's an extremely hazardous confusion
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This is complex, but not about 'negativity'. Cynicism is a philosophy that necessarily reinforces the prior that _leaders must be posturing liars_, which is often 1.) not practical knowledge and 2.) paralyzing.
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The belief that the world and your place in it are fixed are a second order effect of this philosophy, not a foundation, sure. But that's where you inevitably end up.
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it may be inevitable if you fall into some of the traps of self-indulgence in the neighborhood, i spose; i don't think it's at all an inevitable result of the actual philosophy
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my views here are not sufficiently fleshed out yet to argue this intelligently I think.
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But it's something like, the practical application of philosophical ideas needs to take human fallibility into account when thinking about the desired outcome of applying the philosophy.
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that's fair and i don't disagree
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maybe what we need is... BETTER CYNICISM
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