they're a good interface for spatial tasks and the kind of exploratory use you're talking about, they're incredibly bad for workflows you've gotten good at
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Replying to @chaosprime @Carin_McLeoud
the degenerate cases are things where a keyboard workflow is possible but so is a mouse workflow, and because the designer would *never consider* using a keyboard workflow (and probably rises to the level of being self-righteous about it) the keyboard workflow has been broken
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load up web site, i've already typed my username into that box and am typing my password when the onload event fires and forces my input focus back into the username box, because if i had been relying on a mouse i would still be trying to navigate to the username box
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select dropdown has been replaced with a fancy slick-looking version, the web default being just *too* terribly plain, which doesn't bother implementing the keyboard entry behavior of normal HTML select elements because the designer literally did not know it exists
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Replying to @chaosprime @Carin_McLeoud
basically, the mouse sells you a slow, messy interface by presenting it to you as *friendly* and *natural*, and then people who want to use fast, precise interfaces wind up forced to use them because why would anybody want to use anything but the *friendly* and *natural* way?
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Replying to @chaosprime @Carin_McLeoud
touchscreens are all that times 1000
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On the other hand, not having a mouse often means needing to know the exact archaic way to interface with a computer, necessitating quick-
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Replying to @Carin_McLeoud @chaosprime
reference sheets. I think honestly a lot of these problems also come from software no longer competing on UI or features, just on saying>
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its new, compatable, supported, and people afraid to use something old will use it inherently, or don't know any better.
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yeah, i think the mouse (and especially the scrollwheel which i actually like) has a useful and important role to play, i'm just enraged by the consequences of people acting like that's the only role that matters
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if web devs knew keyboard workflows exist and tested sites using them 95% of my criticisms would evaporate
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When did webdev become such a dumpster fi- Flash. I know someone'll say frames but I liked frames.
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