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    1. M is for Mind Control 🎃Kistulot‏ @Carin_McLeoud 6 Nov 2017

      Read someone going on about how modern UI and computers in general are so backwards, harder to use than before... And I agreed.

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    2. M is for Mind Control 🎃Kistulot‏ @Carin_McLeoud 6 Nov 2017

      Mobile UI going to desktop has been such a clusterfuck. It was largely experimental there, and things weren't loved based on success of it.

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    3. M is for Mind Control 🎃Kistulot‏ @Carin_McLeoud 6 Nov 2017

      People can deal with a bad UI if they like the hardware/features of the software. See: Discord. But then this rant called out... well...

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    4. M is for Mind Control 🎃Kistulot‏ @Carin_McLeoud 6 Nov 2017

      The Mouse. The mouse was a backwards step in controlling computers, apparently. N.o. go away stop don't even just go no no no no no

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    5. M is for Mind Control 🎃Kistulot‏ @Carin_McLeoud 6 Nov 2017

      Mice let you interact with any part of the display without needing to know anything special besides drag, and click. It's effective. Easy.

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    6. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 6 Nov 2017
      Replying to @Carin_McLeoud

      i don't preciiiisely agree with him but i have a lot of hatred for mice that mostly comes out of degenerate cases that develop around them

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    7. M is for Mind Control 🎃Kistulot‏ @Carin_McLeoud 6 Nov 2017
      Replying to @chaosprime

      Curiosity. WHaddya mean? I mean I hate razr mice too but that doesn't hurt my logitech--though I imagine you mean summat different.

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    8. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 6 Nov 2017
      Replying to @Carin_McLeoud

      they're a good interface for spatial tasks and the kind of exploratory use you're talking about, they're incredibly bad for workflows you've gotten good at

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    9. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 6 Nov 2017
      Replying to @chaosprime @Carin_McLeoud

      the degenerate cases are things where a keyboard workflow is possible but so is a mouse workflow, and because the designer would *never consider* using a keyboard workflow (and probably rises to the level of being self-righteous about it) the keyboard workflow has been broken

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      Chaos‏ @chaosprime 6 Nov 2017
      Replying to @chaosprime @Carin_McLeoud

      load up web site, i've already typed my username into that box and am typing my password when the onload event fires and forces my input focus back into the username box, because if i had been relying on a mouse i would still be trying to navigate to the username box

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        2. M is for Mind Control 🎃Kistulot‏ @Carin_McLeoud 6 Nov 2017
          Replying to @chaosprime

          Both of those situations do suck. Focus theft isn't even just a mouse issue. Photoshop steals focus no less than 3 times on boot.

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        3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 6 Nov 2017
          Replying to @Carin_McLeoud

          yeah everything i'm saying is intersectory to other issues and to some extent is more informed by and habitually proximate to the mouse rather than caused by it as such

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        2. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 6 Nov 2017
          Replying to @chaosprime @Carin_McLeoud

          select dropdown has been replaced with a fancy slick-looking version, the web default being just *too* terribly plain, which doesn't bother implementing the keyboard entry behavior of normal HTML select elements because the designer literally did not know it exists

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        3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 6 Nov 2017
          Replying to @chaosprime @Carin_McLeoud

          basically, the mouse sells you a slow, messy interface by presenting it to you as *friendly* and *natural*, and then people who want to use fast, precise interfaces wind up forced to use them because why would anybody want to use anything but the *friendly* and *natural* way?

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        4. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 6 Nov 2017
          Replying to @chaosprime @Carin_McLeoud

          touchscreens are all that times 1000

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        5. M is for Mind Control 🎃Kistulot‏ @Carin_McLeoud 6 Nov 2017
          Replying to @chaosprime

          On the other hand, not having a mouse often means needing to know the exact archaic way to interface with a computer, necessitating quick-

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        6. M is for Mind Control 🎃Kistulot‏ @Carin_McLeoud 6 Nov 2017
          Replying to @Carin_McLeoud @chaosprime

          reference sheets. I think honestly a lot of these problems also come from software no longer competing on UI or features, just on saying>

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        7. M is for Mind Control 🎃Kistulot‏ @Carin_McLeoud 6 Nov 2017
          Replying to @Carin_McLeoud @chaosprime

          its new, compatable, supported, and people afraid to use something old will use it inherently, or don't know any better.

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        8. M is for Mind Control 🎃Kistulot‏ @Carin_McLeoud 6 Nov 2017
          Replying to @Carin_McLeoud @chaosprime

          Very few apps feel like they just add new features, esp without removing many, and a always come with more and more costs.

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