kinda why i regard most classic SF as cultural masturbation, stroking your worldview by projecting it into the far future where it still holds, revealing what you knew all along, that it is fundamental truthhttps://twitter.com/MothRecess/status/921229629326729216 …
yeah? i mean, just off the top of my head we have cults that did nothing but fuck because sinning glorified divine forgiveness and cults that died out because reproduction was too much attachment to this world, seems like some variation
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Show me the cult that said 'fuck revelation, the future's what we make it'?
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lol yeah that one's rough. are we sure enlightenment values define SF though? what with how the twist "they turn out to be Adam and Eve!" is so fucking hackneyed any given slush reader still has to reject it multiple times daily?
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but I didn't say enlightenment *values* define SF, Shelly was reacting against them, and is the Adam and Eve stuff really SF?
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oh god the true scotsmen are coming
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you would admit though, that there are untrue scotsmen? If I claim to be scottish, for instance?
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i'm not sure that taking as axiomatic that everybody is scottish is worse than conceding this point
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it's not that i think you're wrong, it's that getting involved in making determinations about what is and isn't SF is tantamount to volunteering to maintain Wikipedia
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I know, this is why I always throw it out there in the hope of getting an entertaining firefight going
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there are definitely tropes that nobody rejected, i'm sure. hardly any of them didn't think that your social group should have a really important holy dude in charge of everybody...
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oh, there's variation, but all those cults believe *they* were the one true interpretation of the bible, and everyone else had it wrong.
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even the Gnostics claimed to be getting information by direct contact with the divine, they were not in command of their own destiny.
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