kinda why i regard most classic SF as cultural masturbation, stroking your worldview by projecting it into the far future where it still holds, revealing what you knew all along, that it is fundamental truthhttps://twitter.com/MothRecess/status/921229629326729216 …
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yeah? i mean, just off the top of my head we have cults that did nothing but fuck because sinning glorified divine forgiveness and cults that died out because reproduction was too much attachment to this world, seems like some variation
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Show me the cult that said 'fuck revelation, the future's what we make it'?
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lol yeah that one's rough. are we sure enlightenment values define SF though? what with how the twist "they turn out to be Adam and Eve!" is so fucking hackneyed any given slush reader still has to reject it multiple times daily?
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but I didn't say enlightenment *values* define SF, Shelly was reacting against them, and is the Adam and Eve stuff really SF?
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oh god the true scotsmen are coming
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you would admit though, that there are untrue scotsmen? If I claim to be scottish, for instance?
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i'm not sure that taking as axiomatic that everybody is scottish is worse than conceding this point
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The enlightenment happens and suddenly the future is not pre-scripted by god, but created by human agency.
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which works a lot of changes in the mass market for stories, sure, but it's worth mentioning that the enlightenment was an effort to open up ideas that had previously been husbanded by an elite to the masses
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b4 the enlightement, IMHARVO, there is no real future, only revelation, which was god-made & written. The future is man-made & unwritten.
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holy shit i can't even google for that one. In My Holy And Revealed Valid Opinion?
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In My Humble and Rarely Voiced Opinion
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let's just say that 'getting burned by your critics' was more literal back then.
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But it takes a good while for this to really sink in with most ppl, many of whom still keep the faith.
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the enlightenment. The reason being that prior to that point all future history is already mapped out by God. Saying otherwise gets you...
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I strongly disagree, though you might be right about 2000 years ago. But no true science fiction can exist in christendom before...
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