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    Chaos‏ @chaosprime 20 Oct 2017

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    kinda why i regard most classic SF as cultural masturbation, stroking your worldview by projecting it into the far future where it still holds, revealing what you knew all along, that it is fundamental truthhttps://twitter.com/MothRecess/status/921229629326729216 …

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    I really wish there was more transgender themes in sci fi. How the fuck do you have cyborgs and aliens yet only still 2 genders.
    5:47 PM - 20 Oct 2017
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      1. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 20 Oct 2017

        the cultural masturbation respecter has logged onpic.twitter.com/YizFilScWD

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      2. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 21 Oct 2017
        Replying to @okayultra

        when it's going six degrees past the boundaries of your culture's mainstream thought to even develop a working idea of what a gender is, yeah, sure, granted

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      3. ColumPaget‏ @ColumPaget 21 Oct 2017
        Replying to @chaosprime @okayultra

        Also ya gotta remember that classic SF was working in a time when people's heads would explode if you had a PoC flying a spaceship.

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      4. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 21 Oct 2017
        Replying to @ColumPaget @okayultra

        you'll always have to contend with the corn-pone values of the mass market if you're writing for the mass market, i'm not of a mind to excuse milking that instead of challenging and subverting it on that basis

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      5. ColumPaget‏ @ColumPaget 21 Oct 2017
        Replying to @chaosprime @okayultra

        wow, 280 chars has really bought your pep back! Spoken like a true revolutionary!

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      6. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 21 Oct 2017
        Replying to @ColumPaget @okayultra

        pic.twitter.com/NokXHLyH46

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      2. Official Trapt‏ @AbsoluteEunuch 21 Oct 2017
        Replying to @chaosprime

        Wait a minute, you're telling me that media is reflective of the time that it was made?

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      3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 21 Oct 2017
        Replying to @AbsoluteEunuch

        not really, i'm more telling you that some people who tell you they're feeding you imagination are feeding you failure of imagination and narcissism see alsohttps://www.lewrockwell.com/1970/01/mark-twain/corn-pone-opinions/ …

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      2. largest, worst BeetleBorg‏ @athodyd 20 Oct 2017
        Replying to @chaosprime @BAKKOOONN

        Sturgeon's Law still holds. not everyone can be Le Guin or Tiptree/Sheldon or even John Varley

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      3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 20 Oct 2017
        Replying to @athodyd @BAKKOOONN

        more's the pity

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      2. deadhappy‏ @smithian451 20 Oct 2017
        Replying to @chaosprime @BAKKOOONN

        Check out Iain M Banks SF, they are full of gender changing characters in societies where it's normal. "Player of Games" is one such

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      3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 20 Oct 2017
        Replying to @smithian451 @BAKKOOONN

        honestly i love Banks *absolutely limitlessly* but he proves the rule, in as polymorphously perverse and technically omnipotent a society as the Culture sex is as far as we see still something that has two values, the innovation is you can switch the setting

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      4. deadhappy‏ @smithian451 20 Oct 2017
        Replying to @chaosprime @BAKKOOONN

        Good luck with that! :-D

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      2.  🎃 Félix  👻 Ghosttari  🎃‏ @_shyextrovert 20 Oct 2017
        Replying to @chaosprime

        This is literally every Heinlein book, which owns because his actual beliefs & values changed throughout his entire career

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      3.  🎃 Félix  👻 Ghosttari  🎃‏ @_shyextrovert 20 Oct 2017
        Replying to @_shyextrovert @chaosprime

        To be fair, Heinlein had that short story where a time-traveling dude transitions to become both his father AND his mother so he was p woke

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      4. klaatu barada nikto‏ @klaatu 20 Oct 2017
        Replying to @_shyextrovert @chaosprime

        All You Zombies, they finally made a good movie of it a few years ago.

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      1. Irenes (many) (high-minded engineer)‏ @ireneista 20 Oct 2017
        Replying to @chaosprime

        It was probably thirty years between when our system was introduced to classic SF&F and when we understood this. Yeah. :(

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      1. Muni‏ @muni_d1 20 Oct 2017
        Replying to @chaosprime @BAKKOOONN

        Read this as “most classic San Francisco as cultural masturbation.” Totally correct that way as well.

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      1. whirring‏ @mistySpock 20 Oct 2017
        Replying to @chaosprime @BAKKOOONN

        No gender in the future. It's David Bowies all the way down.

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