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    1. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 10 Sep 2017

      unpopular opinion: the DNC moving right every year isn't their fault it's our fault for not being willing to punish them by voting them out

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    2. Resist!‏ @birnbaum_paul 10 Sep 2017
      Replying to @chaosprime

      It's more our fault for voting FOR right-pushing Republicans. If we had voted Dems out, even more Repubs would be IN.

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    3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 10 Sep 2017
      Replying to @birnbaum_paul

      yes, that is exactly the thinking that guarantees Democrats turn into Republicans over time, thanks for summarizing it

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    4. Resist!‏ @birnbaum_paul 10 Sep 2017
      Replying to @chaosprime

      Win-win for Republicans, eh? How about "elect Democrats. Make sure they know what you want. Find Democrats who will fight for that"?

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    5. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 10 Sep 2017
      Replying to @birnbaum_paul

      so you figure the reason this has been steadily failing harder for the past 40 years is, what, not enough sanctimoniousness?

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    6. Resist!‏ @birnbaum_paul 10 Sep 2017
      Replying to @chaosprime

      No. Too much. There was a general mindset change encompassed by the Reagan Revolution. Greed became good. Unions, not so much.

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    7. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 10 Sep 2017
      Replying to @birnbaum_paul

      when everybody to the left of you will vote for you no matter how badly you betray them, what incentives would you say this sets up?

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    8. Resist!‏ @birnbaum_paul 10 Sep 2017
      Replying to @chaosprime

      And what do you do when the voting bloc of "the Left" isn't enough to get a true Leftist elected (until the entire mindset changes)?

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      Chaos‏ @chaosprime 10 Sep 2017
      Replying to @birnbaum_paul

      don't care. what's needed is incentives that cause leftward drift. mindless loyalty causes rightward drift.

      4:00 PM - 10 Sep 2017
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        2. Resist!‏ @birnbaum_paul 10 Sep 2017
          Replying to @chaosprime

          I don't disagree. But when Tea Party crazies can primary entrenched Conservatives and win elections, what can real progressives do? (1/2)

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        3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 10 Sep 2017
          Replying to @birnbaum_paul

          is "develop the organization to primary entrenched right wing Democrats" not an obvious answer here

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        4. Resist!‏ @birnbaum_paul 10 Sep 2017
          Replying to @chaosprime

          You're talking to a native NYer (who currently lives in NJ). I think the "NY Independent Democrats" in the State assembly shd be primaried.

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        1. Resist!‏ @birnbaum_paul 10 Sep 2017
          Replying to @chaosprime

          Example: HRC had adopted much of what Sanders had proposed, plus had the will & skill to accomplish it, politically. But Progs rejected her.

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