Trying to avoid "democrats want voter fraud" bullshit. It's dumb play for her.
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Replying to @jonathankoren @troughofluxury
oh, i see. i was thinking that since it doesn't impact her, she's free to vote her preference, which is always whatever fucks poor people
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Replying to @chaosprime @troughofluxury
I also have no reason to believe that's her preference, especially since she was able to wrangle up the votes to get Obamacare passed.
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Replying to @jonathankoren @troughofluxury
ah, yeah, to me "wrangle up the votes to get Obamacare passed" reads as "desperately maneuvered to put a stake in single-payer's heart"
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Replying to @chaosprime @troughofluxury
Single payer simply didn't have the support it does today in 2009. It was the smarter policy, but couldn't pass, Even ACA was hard to pass
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Replying to @jonathankoren @troughofluxury
the way i heard it it had plenty of legs until Lieberman decided it wasn't free market enough http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/prescriptions/2009/10/did_lieberman_just_kill_the_public_option.html …
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Replying to @chaosprime @troughofluxury
Well blame Ol' Joe then. You have to get it passed him, and you need every vote in the senate
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Replying to @jonathankoren @troughofluxury
yeah sure, i just don't feel like Nancy "we're capitalists, and that's just the way it is" Pelosi was too broken up over it
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Replying to @chaosprime @troughofluxury
I have no idea, but it doesn't really matter if you can't get it pass Joe in the Senate, and you need both pro & anti single payer factions
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Replying to @jonathankoren @troughofluxury
i'm just not going to be impressed with getting the former to vote for a shitty right wing proposal instead of working the opposite angle
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relying on the left being captured because they care and will vote for the lesser evil isn't heroic, it's triangulation and cowardice
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