> punching nazis doesn't matter > punching nazis made nazis plow a car into a crowd kinda feel like these are one or the other
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Replying to @chaosprime @notwokieleaks
"doesn't work" isn't equivalent to "doesn't matter". seems pretty clear it didn't *work*.
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wouldn't go along with "*made* Nazis plow a car into a crowd" bc that's overdetermined and bc the driver's still responsible for what he did
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but it obviously didn't *stop* him, either. & I kind of do feel like deterring Nazi violence should be a goal of challenging Nazi momentum
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Replying to @schakalsynthetc @notwokieleaks
i mean, sure; given the level of mainstream horror at embracing levels of violence you characterize as a bit of good fun on Saturday night…
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Replying to @chaosprime @notwokieleaks
ok, fair as a matter of media perception, but... tbqh it's hard to square that "mainstream" with the one in the local paper's "police beat"
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so media-generated horror prob shldn't be a big worry at face value? I kind of doubt a majority of ppl take all of it completely seriously
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Replying to @schakalsynthetc @notwokieleaks
i dunno, seems awfully optimistic. even for people who regard it utterly cynically it has a lot to do with the lay of the Overton window
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Replying to @chaosprime @notwokieleaks
whether it even gets any media attention at all can't be taken for granted either, tho. silence is a propaganda tactic
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I mean, how much attention did Standing Rock get, esp compared to events that fit more easily into a "scary radicals riot" narrative?
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pretty strong argument that nobody's forgotten a damn thing
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