i wonder if maybe this is actually a distinction between communities of thingness and communities of thereness (https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2017/06/06/thingness-and-thereness/ …)
oh i was just thinking that a fun correlative is that communities as you mean them are characterized by humility and cults by hubris
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like, in a community, nobody thinks they're too precious to have a bad day or get mad or sad or put up with somebody they find odious
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but point at anything that gets called a cult and it's built to absolutely eradicate those kinds of experiences, for the elect at least
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