And you know what? That's ok. Honestly. Tribes manage themselves. I just wish they'd be less pretentious about what inclusion means.
i doubt you'll really find many that are just one or the other but emphasis is important i'm sure
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hmm... that's probably true, but.... no I don't think that's true. I've experienced both, they're quite distinct.
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you don't think a community is just controlling you in ways you don't mind and a cult is just supporting you in ways you don't notice?
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ironically market traders are not in competition with each other to the same degree. You get a pitch, and you're not special.
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oh i was just thinking that a fun correlative is that communities as you mean them are characterized by humility and cults by hubris
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like, in a community, nobody thinks they're too precious to have a bad day or get mad or sad or put up with somebody they find odious
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but point at anything that gets called a cult and it's built to absolutely eradicate those kinds of experiences, for the elect at least
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now, I'm not saying people *liked* each other, but they had a kindof group ethos of mutual assistance, though I'm sure it was often breached
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*nodnod* the kind of natural halfassed organization that forms among people stuck together, probably one of the best things in the world
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I agree. And it can be surprisingly permanent.
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prolly anarchism is basically "living that way is good and for some reason i think we all can because i don't know what Dunbar's number is"
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the working class often lack a career advancement path. Thus the biggest payoff comes from looking out for each other, from 'community'
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my family used to run a market stall. The markets were a community, no-one had overall power but people helped each other out...
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