i really don't think so honestly, i think they're mostly saying what feels right and good
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which they have been conditioned to feel that way about using social standing in their group as carrot and stick
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Replying to @chaosprime
I think our only difference might be that I think this system is very old, and part of human wiring, not artificial.
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every point i'm arguing with you on is one where you're attributing conditioned behavior to consciousness
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tbqf if people had to think about it as much as you're assigning to them they wouldn't be nearly so *good* at it
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we're good at pumping our hearts and digesting food, without knowing *how* if you see what I mean
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okay. for some reason it keeps sounding like you're positing people consciously buying into hypocrisy on the topic.
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oh, that I am. But the urge to do the thing isn't conscious. The resistance to 'don't do that' is.
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ahh okay, gotcha. enh, consciousness is just the part of your brain that comes up with a good story for the cops, anyway
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trying not to generalize about any group. It's almost impossible, it's exhausting. You can't say anything without exceptions.
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yeah. there are compelling reasons for most of the nonsense people do. might be good to try to rein some of it in, idk.
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