it's a "Bad argument".
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Replying to @ColumPaget @St_Rev
sure. that isn't a conspiracy. it's just people having categories of epistemic certainty.
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and, i mean, there are powerful monkey self-interest reasons for why they have those categories, no question
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but it's a rare bird who's aware they're refusing to question a thing because it'd make them unable to mouth shibboleths
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Replying to @chaosprime @St_Rev
I think at some level people know "I'm saying this because it's required for social standing in my group"
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Replying to @ColumPaget @St_Rev
i really don't think so honestly, i think they're mostly saying what feels right and good
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which they have been conditioned to feel that way about using social standing in their group as carrot and stick
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Replying to @chaosprime
I think our only difference might be that I think this system is very old, and part of human wiring, not artificial.
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Replying to @ColumPaget @St_Rev
every point i'm arguing with you on is one where you're attributing conditioned behavior to consciousness
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tbqf if people had to think about it as much as you're assigning to them they wouldn't be nearly so *good* at it
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consciousness is the last ditch throw some duct tape on it and hope it holds together mode of cognition
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