advanced? It used to be widely understood once, but it's faded away in recent times.
i really don't think so honestly, i think they're mostly saying what feels right and good
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which they have been conditioned to feel that way about using social standing in their group as carrot and stick
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I think our only difference might be that I think this system is very old, and part of human wiring, not artificial.
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every point i'm arguing with you on is one where you're attributing conditioned behavior to consciousness
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there's also the point that I'm saying I think the behavior is somewhat instinctive, not conditioned.
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yeah, probably some prebuilt structure there, doubt it matters, likely that general neural nets would wind up similar
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relates to refusing to admit your doing the thing, or wanting to do it in the face of good reasons why you shouldn't.
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well, i mean, they might just be using entirely different principles from the ones you think are relevant
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like maybe they aren't using "you can't generalize groups from their worst members" at all
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of course! Why does it feel right and good? Because we're wired to get a payoff from certain actions.
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