I think there are degrees. I think marketers/propagandists/clickbaiting scum know what they're doing.
sure. that isn't a conspiracy. it's just people having categories of epistemic certainty.
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and, i mean, there are powerful monkey self-interest reasons for why they have those categories, no question
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but it's a rare bird who's aware they're refusing to question a thing because it'd make them unable to mouth shibboleths
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I think at some level people know "I'm saying this because it's required for social standing in my group"
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i really don't think so honestly, i think they're mostly saying what feels right and good
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which they have been conditioned to feel that way about using social standing in their group as carrot and stick
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I think our only difference might be that I think this system is very old, and part of human wiring, not artificial.
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every point i'm arguing with you on is one where you're attributing conditioned behavior to consciousness
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there's also the point that I'm saying I think the behavior is somewhat instinctive, not conditioned.
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I didn't say it was a conspiracy. I said it was a human need. I think (most) ppl need someone to hate.
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nah, most ppl need something to belong to. the thing they belong to may need hate to sustain cohesion.
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but there are well-documented alternatives for the purpose so hate may just be pathetic egregoric laziness.
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I suspect that alternatives are recent inventions, where as unity-through-hate-of-outgroup is maybe older than language
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Torah has a lot of mileage on it and it deploys at least six cohesion drivers, outgroup hate not prominent among them
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hmm, much of what's in the Torah is also in the old testament, right?
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same thing except for the crappy translation jobs
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