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    1. St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻‏ @St_Rev 19 Mar 2017
      Replying to @St_Rev

      Thus endeth the lesson. There's donuts in the break room. 14/14

      4 replies 1 retweet 28 likes
    2. ColumPaget‏ @ColumPaget 19 Mar 2017
      Replying to @St_Rev

      what if the grand majority of ppl are fully in on the game?

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    3. St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻‏ @St_Rev 19 Mar 2017
      Replying to @ColumPaget

      I think there are degrees. I think marketers/propagandists/clickbaiting scum know what they're doing.

      4 replies 2 retweets 3 likes
    4. St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻‏ @St_Rev 19 Mar 2017
      Replying to @St_Rev @ColumPaget

      But I don't think the majority of the audience does.

      4 replies 1 retweet 1 like
    5. ColumPaget‏ @ColumPaget 19 Mar 2017
      Replying to @St_Rev

      don't get that you can't generalize about groups from their worst members. This is kindergarten stuff. So, they must get it but...

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻‏ @St_Rev 19 Mar 2017
      Replying to @ColumPaget

      Lemme stop you there, man. You're wrong. Verbal fluency/appearing smart is way way WAY different from this kind of intelligence.

      3 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    7. ColumPaget‏ @ColumPaget 19 Mar 2017
      Replying to @St_Rev

      advanced? It used to be widely understood once, but it's faded away in recent times.

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    8. St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻‏ @St_Rev 19 Mar 2017
      Replying to @ColumPaget

      They can deploy it where it's immediately obvious but they can't understand most implications.

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    9. ColumPaget‏ @ColumPaget 19 Mar 2017
      Replying to @St_Rev

      you can often tell that they know what argument is coming, but don't want to hear it. They understand fine.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    10. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 19 Mar 2017
      Replying to @ColumPaget @St_Rev

      sure, they *know* that X is what Y people are like and it's annoying that you're trying to tell them otherwise

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      Chaos‏ @chaosprime 19 Mar 2017
      Replying to @chaosprime @ColumPaget @St_Rev

      whereas obviously some B people do A but it'd be ridiculous to generalize that to all B people

      8:11 PM - 19 Mar 2017
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        2. ColumPaget‏ @ColumPaget 19 Mar 2017
          Replying to @chaosprime @St_Rev

          it's a "Bad argument".

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        3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 19 Mar 2017
          Replying to @ColumPaget @St_Rev

          sure. that isn't a conspiracy. it's just people having categories of epistemic certainty.

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        4. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 19 Mar 2017
          Replying to @chaosprime @ColumPaget @St_Rev

          and, i mean, there are powerful monkey self-interest reasons for why they have those categories, no question

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        5. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 19 Mar 2017
          Replying to @chaosprime @ColumPaget @St_Rev

          but it's a rare bird who's aware they're refusing to question a thing because it'd make them unable to mouth shibboleths

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        6. ColumPaget‏ @ColumPaget 19 Mar 2017
          Replying to @chaosprime @St_Rev

          I think at some level people know "I'm saying this because it's required for social standing in my group"

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        7. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 19 Mar 2017
          Replying to @ColumPaget @St_Rev

          i really don't think so honestly, i think they're mostly saying what feels right and good

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        8. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 19 Mar 2017
          Replying to @chaosprime @ColumPaget @St_Rev

          which they have been conditioned to feel that way about using social standing in their group as carrot and stick

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        9. ColumPaget‏ @ColumPaget 19 Mar 2017
          Replying to @chaosprime

          I think our only difference might be that I think this system is very old, and part of human wiring, not artificial. @St_Rev

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        1. ColumPaget‏ @ColumPaget 19 Mar 2017
          Replying to @chaosprime @St_Rev

          yep, that's exactly it. When it's 'B' they can make the argument themselves. But when it's A (the Goldstein) suddenly...

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