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    1. Sam Bisturbed‏ @slambister 14 Mar 2017
      Replying to @slambister @chaosprime

      (We being marginalized people)

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    2. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 14 Mar 2017
      Replying to @slambister

      i feel like you mean that and want it to be true, but it's not really how things go down

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    3. Sam Bisturbed‏ @slambister 14 Mar 2017
      Replying to @chaosprime

      I literally feel the exact same way about what you're saying. :)

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    4. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 14 Mar 2017
      Replying to @slambister

      it seems bizarre to me to think of somebody *wanting* any of what i'm saying to be true

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    5. Sam Bisturbed‏ @slambister 14 Mar 2017
      Replying to @chaosprime

      I think it has to do with having an understanding of how culture works for whole groups as opposed to individual people?

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    6. Sam Bisturbed‏ @slambister 14 Mar 2017
      Replying to @slambister @chaosprime

      When we talk about this stuff, we don't specifically say, but to address large societal problems you have to make some groups.

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    7. Sam Bisturbed‏ @slambister 14 Mar 2017
      Replying to @slambister @chaosprime

      You literally can't describe what's happening otherwise. And realizing your relationship to your group and to other groups is

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    8. Sam Bisturbed‏ @slambister 14 Mar 2017
      Replying to @slambister @chaosprime

      what geek culture has a problem with. And it is *exhausting* to explain this to every single person b/c it's how people talk

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    9. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 14 Mar 2017
      Replying to @slambister

      i mean, maybe "i've dismissed your experience as statistical error because sociology" has foundational communication issues

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    10. Sam Bisturbed‏ @slambister 14 Mar 2017
      Replying to @chaosprime

      It's not a dismissal! It saying that, in general, your group has experiences that are more difficult than this group. Not you.

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      Chaos‏ @chaosprime 14 Mar 2017
      Replying to @slambister

      sure, *i* know that. i'm trying to say that is not in any way how these messages come across to someone who's raw about things.

      11:24 AM - 14 Mar 2017
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        2. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 14 Mar 2017
          Replying to @chaosprime @slambister

          i'm just tryna raise the red flag about the exact mechanics of how we're sending people straight into the arms of YouTubeNazi420

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        3. Sam Bisturbed‏ @slambister 14 Mar 2017
          Replying to @chaosprime

          I don't know that geek culture creates an atmosphere that really values empathy enough for us to keep them from becoming YTNazi.

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        4. Sam Bisturbed‏ @slambister 14 Mar 2017
          Replying to @slambister @chaosprime

          There's an inherent competitiveness in geek culture that makes it very ego-driven, and if you don't have forces in your life to

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        5. Sam Bisturbed‏ @slambister 14 Mar 2017
          Replying to @slambister @chaosprime

          combat that, it's tough not to continue the cycle of abuse, just on another group's.

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        6. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 14 Mar 2017
          Replying to @slambister

          sure. everybody's still human, though. it's a hella more varied bunch than you'd think from watching the 6-sigma angry jerks.

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        7. Sam Bisturbed‏ @slambister 14 Mar 2017
          Replying to @chaosprime

          Yet they make an enormous impact on the culture. Why do the others let them? (I realize this strays a lot from original point.)

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        8. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 14 Mar 2017
          Replying to @slambister

          (oh, that's fine.) who would stop them? their fans? the people who aren't their fans catch the cultural impact via fans.

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        9. Sam Bisturbed‏ @slambister 14 Mar 2017
          Replying to @chaosprime

          Well, take something like women in tech. Ideally, colleagues would be stepping up and really speaking out against misogynists.

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