it's actually "nephilim" that means "fallen", b'nei ha-elohim is "children of the gods" if we're being honest
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Replying to @okayultra
it really depends on what retconned continuity we're talking about, like if "Elohim" is "God" then these are angels
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but if they're still "children of the gods"! well, there's never been a "the gods" where dick moves weren't bog standard
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i'm sure in the monotheistic continuity we have to posit that the grigori fell through their lust for mortal women or whatever
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Replying to @chaosprime @okayultra
and naturally we decided to call their kids the fallen ones instead of them in that circumstance, like you do
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tbh you have to jump through so many weird hoops to force monotheism onto this language you're just making it all up as you go
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the core text is practically Hellenic though: godspawn got busy and that's where the heroes of yore came from kiddo
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i strongly suspect that nephilim were giants in exactly the sense that we could speak of peter dinklage as a giant
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