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    Chaos‏ @chaosprime 15 Nov 2016

    Chaos Retweeted Kurt Eichenwald

    hold on, hear me out. Kurt is half right. this kind of engagement is super important, for one reason: sea lioning.https://twitter.com/kurteichenwald/status/798027460801478656 …

    Chaos added,

    Kurt EichenwaldVerified account @kurteichenwald
    Rage does not work as political opposition. Moral high ground, peaceful engagement, asking respectful questions of opponents. These work.
    5:11 PM - 15 Nov 2016
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    • Elizabeth Adams 𝖆𝖉𝖗𝖎𝖊𝖓𝖓𝖊 Kelly Hills ꙮMantis Space Marine Flyndersticks 🌻🌹 Spooky Jenny Marx Callow Cawmrade Charlotte Crow Louvelune Lady Love
    4 replies 6 retweets 10 likes
      1. New conversation
      2. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 15 Nov 2016
        Replying to @chaosprime

        respectful questions from moral high ground are essential for denying the enemy the use of their cognitive capacity for their own purposes.

        3 replies 3 retweets 5 likes
      3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 15 Nov 2016
        Replying to @chaosprime

        so yes, teams should absolutely be engaging in this fashion. just don't delude yourself that it's for the purpose of getting anything done.

        2 replies 4 retweets 11 likes
      4. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 15 Nov 2016
        Replying to @chaosprime

        it's for the purpose of tying up resources so they can't be put to other uses.

        1 reply 2 retweets 6 likes
      5. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 15 Nov 2016
        Replying to @chaosprime

        i would like to thank the inestimable @jenphalian for making this point to me, possibly accidentally

        2 replies 1 retweet 3 likes
      6. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 15 Nov 2016
        Replying to @chaosprime

        oh my gosh, somebody thought my tactical analysis was good enough to try to dissuade me from it. the critics are literally raving, friends!pic.twitter.com/wL1VxpnToe

        1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
      7. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 15 Nov 2016
        Replying to @chaosprime

        my favorite part is the idiosyncratic weight on a common word, sufficiently obscurantist as to be indistinguishable from a Dune reference

        1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
      8. 𝖆𝖉𝖗𝖎𝖊𝖓𝖓𝖊‏ @adrienneleigh 16 Nov 2016
        Replying to @chaosprime

        He's talking about the Loyalty, Vouce, Exit paradigm, by some dude whose name i don't remember. Super popular with alt-right

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      9. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 16 Nov 2016
        Replying to @adrienneleigh

        thanks! i'd hate to blame Frank Herbert

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
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      2. Emma Bull‏ @coffeeem 15 Nov 2016
        Replying to @chaosprime

        Not clear to me what you're saying.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 15 Nov 2016
        Replying to @coffeeem

        did you see the tweets after that or just the one?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. Emma Bull‏ @coffeeem 17 Nov 2016
        Replying to @chaosprime

        Yep. But looks like you’re saying respectful questioning and engagement is sea lioning.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 17 Nov 2016
        Replying to @coffeeem

        i'm not saying it is necessarily, i'm saying it can be, and that we should use it as such.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. Emma Bull‏ @coffeeem 17 Nov 2016
        Replying to @chaosprime

        How does one distinguish? Want to make sure my ??s aren't seen as strategy, but actual engagement.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      7. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 18 Nov 2016
        Replying to @coffeeem

        engage the way you normally would; stay interested. just don't feel like you need to accomplish anything but keeping them talking

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      8. Emma Bull‏ @coffeeem 18 Nov 2016
        Replying to @chaosprime

        This troubles me. Engaging purely to waste time wastes both parties' time.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      9. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 18 Nov 2016
        Replying to @coffeeem

        yeah, you want to be doing something else at the same time if you can, or treating it as a relaxation activity if practicable

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
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      2. Nicole D. Valentine‏ @nicoleva 16 Nov 2016
        Replying to @chaosprime

        while I love the nuances of this discussion & with you, wasn't this done in 2012 and successful? This is the angry backlash...

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Nicole D. Valentine‏ @nicoleva 16 Nov 2016
        Replying to @nicoleva @chaosprime

        hence the large reliance on anonymity now.

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 16 Nov 2016
        Replying to @nicoleva

        i'm not aware of anything similar from 2012. anything i could look at?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Nicole D. Valentine‏ @nicoleva 16 Nov 2016
        Replying to @chaosprime

        but I want to have a nice day.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      6. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 16 Nov 2016
        Replying to @nicoleva

        ahh i see. we must be thinking in slightly different channels because i don't see the problem

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      7. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 16 Nov 2016
        Replying to @chaosprime @nicoleva

        anonymity and anger are no obstacle if the only objective is keeping them talking

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      8. End of conversation

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