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    1. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 6 Oct 2015

      Chaos Retweeted Nick Ban Nazis Mamatas  🤼‍♂️ 🏴

      The jackboots are literally just *itching* for you, in your progressive zeal, to tear up what's left of free speech.https://twitter.com/NMamatas/status/651517556012912640 …

      Chaos added,

      Nick Ban Nazis Mamatas  🤼‍♂️ 🏴Verified account @NMamatas
      Why the militant liberal quasi-left is wrong to support laws criminalizing hate speech: http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/oct/06/london-woman-charged-over-alleged-killallwhitemen-tweet#_=_ …
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    2. Kevin J. Maroney‏ @womzilla 6 Oct 2015
      Replying to @chaosprime

      @chaosprime I've never heard of a hate speech statute that increases the amount of criminalized speech (though I'm sure there must be). +>

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    3. Kevin J. Maroney‏ @womzilla 6 Oct 2015
      Replying to @womzilla

      @chaosprime The model statutes I've seen increase the penalties for speech that would already be criminal (threats/incitement to violence)+>

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    4. Kevin J. Maroney‏ @womzilla 6 Oct 2015
      Replying to @womzilla

      @chaosprime and create a new class of action for statistical tracking. I'm sure there ARE really bad laws; I've just not seen them.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 6 Oct 2015
      Replying to @womzilla

      @womzilla All I'm really getting at is that every time we hand the state a hammer and tell it to defend the marginalized it kneecaps them.

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    6. Kevin J. Maroney‏ @womzilla 6 Oct 2015
      Replying to @chaosprime

      @chaosprime Yes--but the world is so full of hammers.

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      Chaos‏ @chaosprime 6 Oct 2015
      Replying to @womzilla

      @womzilla Yeah. We can still at least try to avoid actively asking to be hit in the head with them.

      3:28 PM - 6 Oct 2015
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        2. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 6 Oct 2015
          Replying to @chaosprime

          @womzilla In this tortured metaphor, establishing asymmetric protection under the law as good is asking to be hit in the head with a hammer.

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        3. Kevin J. Maroney‏ @womzilla 6 Oct 2015
          Replying to @chaosprime

          @chaosprime Is it asymmetric protection or recognition of asymmetrical offenses? Burning a trashcan threatens one, burning a cross, many.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. Kevin J. Maroney‏ @womzilla 6 Oct 2015
          Replying to @womzilla

          @chaosprime I don't consider that proof that the latter *must* be treated differently, just an argument for why it might be.

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        5. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 6 Oct 2015
          Replying to @womzilla

          @womzilla Doesn't seem determinative of hate crime anyway. A hate crime only one person can perceive is still one.

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        6. Kevin J. Maroney‏ @womzilla 6 Oct 2015
          Replying to @chaosprime

          @chaosprime True: a lot of hate crime implementation centers around motivation (which is irretrievably baked into the law anyway).

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        7. Kevin J. Maroney‏ @womzilla 6 Oct 2015
          Replying to @womzilla

          @chaosprime The example given upthread is a ludicrous, regardless--there's no credible threat & hurting feelings should in no way be a crime

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