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    1. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 2 Mar 2015
      Replying to @JFollain

      @JFollain @Grummz right. so to protect free speech, journalists can only speak in the matter you approve of. i totally get it!

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    2. Jake Follain‏ @JFollain 2 Mar 2015
      Replying to @chaosprime

      @chaosprime @Grummz We should demand reporting on facts, not agenda. Otherwise we end up with Fox News, who spew lies as often as they can.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 2 Mar 2015
      Replying to @JFollain

      @JFollain @Grummz how about we just have a clear delineation between pieces that are trying to approach objectivity and opinion pieces?

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. Jake Follain‏ @JFollain 2 Mar 2015
      Replying to @chaosprime

      @chaosprime @Grummz Opinion pieces would be devoid of facts, asserting their opinion wherever possible as if it were.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 2 Mar 2015
      Replying to @JFollain

      @JFollain @Grummz that's... not actually how it works, but at least you're thinking about it. this isn't a new thing for journalism, btw.

      3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. Jake Follain‏ @JFollain 2 Mar 2015
      Replying to @chaosprime

      @chaosprime @Grummz People trust journalists for happenings and the news and suchlike, and you're okay with people being lied to? Deceived?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 2 Mar 2015
      Replying to @JFollain

      @JFollain @Grummz of course not. relating your opinion, your analysis, your best guess is something else entirely from deception.

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    8. Jake Follain‏ @JFollain 2 Mar 2015
      Replying to @chaosprime

      @chaosprime @Grummz But you're arguing that they should be free to say whatever they like, so you're admitting you draw the line somewhere?

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    9. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 2 Mar 2015
      Replying to @JFollain

      @JFollain @Grummz sure. if somebody lies, we talk about it. we say, oh hey, that guy on Fox News sure fucking lies a lot.

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    10. Jake Follain‏ @JFollain 2 Mar 2015
      Replying to @chaosprime

      @chaosprime @Grummz But surely you can be saying it's okay for them to be allowed to do that? People trust them for information!

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      Chaos‏ @chaosprime 2 Mar 2015
      Replying to @JFollain

      @JFollain @Grummz no, it's not fucking okay, but i don't believe in shutting them down to shut them up, nor in enforcing via death threats.

      2:49 PM - 2 Mar 2015
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        2. Jake Follain‏ @JFollain 2 Mar 2015
          Replying to @chaosprime

          @chaosprime @Grummz It's their jobs to provide accurate reporting, they are absolutely free to say anything in their own free time!

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        3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 2 Mar 2015
          Replying to @JFollain

          @JFollain @Grummz you're the only known gator who believes that, since people are routinely punished for what they say on their own time.

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        4. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 2 Mar 2015
          Replying to @chaosprime

          @JFollain @Grummz regardless. absolutely, they have a responsibility. we don't stoop to censorship and thuggery to enforce that.

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        5. Jake Follain‏ @JFollain 2 Mar 2015
          Replying to @chaosprime

          @chaosprime @Grummz Thuggery? You think Mark is advocating that? You think I am? No. People trust journalists, it's their job to be factual.

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        6. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 2 Mar 2015
          Replying to @JFollain

          @JFollain @Grummz i think it's part of their job to be honest. this is different from being factual.

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        7. Jake Follain‏ @JFollain 2 Mar 2015
          Replying to @chaosprime

          @chaosprime @Grummz But they aren't factual. That's the problem.

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        8. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 2 Mar 2015
          Replying to @JFollain

          @JFollain @Grummz i don't agree. "factual" reporting isn't honest because it requires suppressing analysis and contextual understanding.

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        9. Jake Follain‏ @JFollain 2 Mar 2015
          Replying to @chaosprime

          @chaosprime @Grummz No, news is suppose to present you the facts. Not what they think of it.

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