@chaosprime Art forms aren't created ex nihilo, but by adaptation of techniques from other forms. Same is true for criticism.
I mean, I don't wanna be a gator about it or nothin', but critics bringing the framework of theater to games does feel like being colonized.
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@womzilla That's fair, and I agree. Adaptation is different from stomping all over understanding developed native to the form, though. -
@womzilla I've gotten this whole "agency as game devs use it is weird and gross and doesn't exist in theater so it's illegitimate" vibe. -
@chaosprime Treating games like stories* has been harmful to games for a long time. *Theatre is "story" for purposes of this sentence. -
@womzilla Hmm. I don't object to narrative, I'm all about the damn narrative, but that's probably true. -
@womzilla Confusing the concept of a narrative with the concept of a narrative engine doesn't seem like it can be productive. -
@chaosprime I just bristle at people trying to impose a narrative on DOOM. "If it moves, shoot it 'til it dies" is exactly what I wanted. -
@womzilla "I shot a bunch of things until they died and I liked it" is a narrative! It's just not a hoity-toity-ass literary one.
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@chaosprime It can be a broad tent - we're still likely to be in a phase of 'let's see what we can make fit around this beast' for a while. -
@chaosprime Most things will be a very ill fit. The rest might just have interesting insights we may not otherwise have ever considered. -
@chaosprime Professor at Dundee Uni used to use theatre as a tool to communicate technology to older users. Strange idea, but interesting. -
@chaosprime But an ill fit overall: so attempted, refined, and then eventually drifted away. No harm and some left-of-field insight -
@drakkos That sounds great to me. It's not the bringing I object to, I guess, it's granting what's brought hegemony over what was there. -
@chaosprime Yeah, that's fair enough - but in the end, things only ever get the (lasting) credibility they've earned in some way. -
@drakkos Well, that's where the colonization comes in, where inherited credibility is leveraged to stomp all over native understanding. -
@chaosprime That credibility doesn't necessarily translate across disciplines though - I don't see gaming culture kowtowing any time soon. - 1 more reply
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@chaosprime People will figure out what tools work and what tools don't--and it's incumbent on all to analyze the analysis to improve it.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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