maybe i'll write up something holistic formalism when things have died down and i can do it w.out feeling like i'm picking a fight or smth
@mechapoetic hrm. that seems pretty at odds with the rhetoric i saw flying in Formalism Wars v1, but maybe that's not so important now.
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@chaosprime idk, maybe these guys are haunted by ghosts of the pasts, but it's not what my peers and me are saying at all and doesn'tThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@chaosprime even make sense. NARRATIVE *IS* FORM, AESTHETICS *ARE* FORM. christ. -
@mechapoetic *nod* the debate around narrative is highly weird to me. the point of agency as i see it is in producing narrative. -
@chaosprime "agency" implies a certain level of decision-making primacy but games don't offer that, they offer dialog within a "system" -
@mechapoetic i imagine that's why i like complex systems that promote emergent behaviors and emergent gameplay. -
@mechapoetic i mean, agency doesn't occur outside of the constraints of the systems forming its context in IRL or anything. -
@chaosprime i'm skeptical "agency" is a thing in IRL systems anyway! i think it's MOSTLY a matter of performativity of social ritual
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