I wonder if there is a single American over 40 who, thirty years ago, could have imagined a USA where opposing torture is controversial.
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Replying to @chaosprime
@chaosprime@jenphalian 30 years ago, Reagan was president.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @jefflowrey
@jefflowrey@jenphalian Can't imagine him advocating torture. His whole deal was that he acted (ahem) like a president. Not a cheap despot.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @chaosprime
@jefflowrey@jenphalian Authorize it, sure, but not advocate it in public.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @chaosprime
@chaosprime@jenphalian You just said ‘controversial’, not ‘authorized’ or ‘advocated’. Maybe I’ve always been cynical.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @jefflowrey
@jefflowrey@jenphalian I don't remember there being any controversy about it in the Reagan years.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @chaosprime
@jefflowrey@jenphalian Just, of course we don't torture, we're America, we're so much better than that it isn't even a topic.2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
@jefflowrey @jenphalian We *did* torture, obviously. But we didn't stand up as elected officials and say that was totally great, no problem.
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