@FullPresence @chaosprime I honestly don’t remember, but I think I might’ve had the apple before r/A banned me for “transphobia".
@FullPresence @JustineTunney i would contend that to extent those things are unrelated to sex, they are self-image & social role, not gender
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@chaosprime@JustineTunney what else could gender be at that level? -
@FullPresence@JustineTunney i'm saying gender comprises the part of those things related to sex, not the entirety of those things. -
@FullPresence@JustineTunney "good person" isn't a gender and "factory worker" isn't a gender and "fun at parties" isn't a gender. -
@chaosprime@JustineTunney Working at too high a level of abstraction. I prefer to read what trans gender people write on gender. -
@FullPresence you seem less than pleased with what@JustineTunney writes about it :) -
@chaosprime Yes, but@JustineTunney is wrong on that matter, among other things. Still, not talking about gender here.
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@chaosprime@JustineTunney It is ultimately self-image, (I prefer component of self). Neural configuration. -
@FullPresence@JustineTunney to overlook the freight the way society relates to your sex carries in gender = to ignore all trans experience. -
@chaosprime@JustineTunney Point taken. You are correct.
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@chaosprime@JustineTunney Ideally, society would not lay down any gender norms at all. Of course, now we're stuck at 2nd Fem. -
@FullPresence@JustineTunney i don't think that actually is ideal. that would mean society is literally pretending sex doesn't exist. -
@chaosprime And I actually don't think sex as a category exists. Reproductive organs sure.@JustineTunney -
@FullPresence@JustineTunney that seems like a nonsense distinction useful only as ammunition against biological sex role-determinism. -
@chaosprime@JustineTunney I think it's true. It has the most minimum amount of Platonic horseshit: Zero. -
@FullPresence@JustineTunney well, i'm always in favor of that, but i'm dubious that the concept of sex (disentangled from gender) is such. -
@chaosprime@JustineTunney Existence of the intersexed. Nuff said. -
@FullPresence@JustineTunney that disproves the idea that sex is a binary, which is part of society's Platonic-bullshit concept of sex - 6 more replies
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