@fujoshidad not that i trust Marx and Engels further than i can throw them, as much as i like and relate to Engels.
@fujoshidad well, shit, using Marx to justify trying to foment revolution ahead of schedule is bullshit. doesn't stop anyone.
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@fujoshidad Engels' line about how they "put socialism on a scientific footing" was pretty much the end of it for me.
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@fujoshidad you don't get valid results by postulating your conclusions. you just fucking don't.
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