@AquafarE yeah. it's spectacularly bad what that need to conceal one's intent from oneself does to the entire concept of consent, too.
@AquafarE …reinforcement iterations down the road, that's "no means yes" rape culture.
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@chaosprime I'm not quite sure how this fits in with rape culture. -
@AquafarE basically, the difference between a boundary-pushing seduction, like an "i can't admit what i want" cheater needs, and a rape is… -
@AquafarE the passive party's unexpressed but real consent. since that consent *is* unexpressed, active party can easily get the wrong idea. -
@chaosprime I don't buy it because when two people are having sex because they want to, the consent is there even though not said verbally. -
@AquafarE oh, definitely. the problem is in the superficialities and the bad generalizations being drawn from them. -
@AquafarE i mean, i could be wrong but i think this is where a lot of the "blurred lines" "consent is complicated" type stuff comes from. -
@AquafarE if seduction is "make X person do what they want" and rape is "make X person do what I want", some ppl will lose the distinction. -
@chaosprime Why can't it simply be person A was horny & person B was horny and both chose to sleep with each other despite being partnered? - 19 more replies
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@AquafarE b/c if there's anything you can count on ppl to do, it's to draw the wrongest possible generalizations from a specific situation. -
@chaosprime and et cetera. Humans are complex. -
@AquafarE yes. there's nothing that makes a person seem more naive to me than modeling "good person" in terms of *incapacity*. incapable of… -
@AquafarE …cheating, lying, hurting anyone, etc. everybody is capable of everything.
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